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Heir_Aparent 11-04-2007 02:39 PM

600 nl cash
 
me and villain have been HU for maybe 20 min. Hes solid and probably semi thinking, but is too tight for HU and hasnt seem to have made many adjustments. however like i said, its very early on, so I cant say anything too definitely.

I just took a huge pot off him on a double float and showed:
PokerStars Game #13037439286: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/04 - 13:17:49 (ET)
Table 'Tombecka II' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Heir_Aparent ($1356.50 in chips)
Seat 2: TaiwanStyle ($627 in chips)
Heir_Aparent: posts small blind $3
TaiwanStyle: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Heir_Aparent [9d Kh]
Heir_Aparent: raises $18 to $24
TaiwanStyle: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [Qd 5h 3s]
TaiwanStyle: checks
Heir_Aparent: bets $34
TaiwanStyle: raises $71 to $105
Heir_Aparent: calls $71
*** TURN *** [Qd 5h 3s] [5s]
TaiwanStyle: bets $150
Heir_Aparent: calls $150
*** RIVER *** [Qd 5h 3s 5s] [6h]
TaiwanStyle: checks
Heir_Aparent: bets $864
TaiwanStyle: folds
Heir_Aparent collected $557.50 from pot
Heir_Aparent: shows [9d Kh] (a pair of Fives)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $558 | Rake $0.50
Board [Qd 5h 3s 5s 6h]
Seat 1: Heir_Aparent (button) (small blind) collected ($557.50)
Seat 2: TaiwanStyle (big blind) folded on the River

This hand obviously has some affect on the match. Not long after I pick up AA (to clarify i typically reraise more here prefliop but was playign many tables). anyways, I really wanted to fold, but given my image I had a hard time lletting it go even though villain had yet to get out of line. thoughts?

PokerStars Game #13037524306: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/04 - 13:21:49 (ET)
Table 'Tombecka II' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Heir_Aparent ($1671 in chips)
Seat 2: TaiwanStyle ($564 in chips)
TaiwanStyle: posts small blind $3
Heir_Aparent: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Heir_Aparent [Ah Ad]
TaiwanStyle: raises $12 to $18
Heir_Aparent: raises $30 to $48
TaiwanStyle: calls $30
*** FLOP *** [9c Tc Kc]
Heir_Aparent: bets $66
TaiwanStyle: raises $134 to $200

MasterLJ 11-04-2007 03:13 PM

Re: 600 nl cash
 
I hate the first hand.

The second hand looks a lot like a fold as that's just about the worst board ever. I'm not a fan of folding AA in a 3b pot, but when you are ahead here you are barely ahead and when you're behind you're drawing nearly dead.

shipurstack 11-04-2007 03:40 PM

Re: 600 nl cash
 
you would be lucky if you were flipping in hand 2 against taiwan

mayday4379 11-04-2007 03:44 PM

Re: 600 nl cash
 
convert this stuff...

jay_shark 11-04-2007 03:59 PM

Re: 600 nl cash
 
This is a very tough hand .

Lets estimate the hands that may have raised you given his pre-flop action :

1)Hands you beat : k-j , k-q , Ac-j
2)Hands you can't beat : any two clubs , k-9, k-10 , 9-10 , j-q .

1)There are 12+ 12+ 4 = 28 combination of hands you're ahead of at the moment .

2) There are 9+9+9+16 + about 10 club hands = 53 hands you are trailing with .

So given the rough estimates , it appears that you're a 2:1 dog at the moment .

You're getting better than 2:1 on your flop call but your effective odds are certainly less than that . So you have to decide if you want to play for your stack or not . I may have a hard time letting this go but I don't see folding as a bad option against a solid player .

whaahhahahah 11-04-2007 05:06 PM

Re: 600 nl cash
 
[ QUOTE ]
you would be lucky if you were flipping in hand 2 against taiwan

[/ QUOTE ]

creedofhubris 11-04-2007 05:10 PM

Re: 600 nl cash
 
hand 1 baffles me. Why try to push a tight guy off of a pot when he shows aggression? Just let him have that one and grind him down.

hand 2, given description, reluctantly muck. you're behind his range and there's still enough money left to be awkward. if he had like $350 or $400, or if he were spewy, you could just get in there.


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