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Dan87 11-01-2007 12:48 AM

TT in reraised pot
 
10 Handed 1/2 NL.
Stack sizes:
Hero: $250
Villain: Covers

Folds to Hero in CO, Hero raises to $12, Button calls, SB raises to $30, BB folds, Hero calls, Button folds.

Flop 974 rainbow.

BB bets $50, Hero folds.

The PF reraise made me put villain on JJ+, AK, AQs. Standard fold for live poker, or just one of those completely read dependant hands?

early325 11-01-2007 12:52 AM

Re: TT in reraised pot
 
with no description of villain at all, and it being live, i call flop and re-eval turn

FishSticks 11-01-2007 12:53 AM

Re: TT in reraised pot
 
I pretty much would never call with TT preflop to fold to a cbet on this board. If you were just set mining you should have folded pre, and hoping that an unknown will just c/f after 3balling is a bit optimistic.

Obviously if you have a read this doesn't need to be the case, but I think calling one time here is reasonable. Folding preflop is alright given it's a live game and 3betting is a lot less requent in my experience, but the fact that it folded around to you in the CO makes the steal factor so obvious that I might even think an unknown is firing light.

Dan87 11-01-2007 12:59 AM

Re: TT in reraised pot
 
If I put him on that range though, aren't I deep enough to set mine? When I called PF my read was that he was very strong and I needed to hit a set, maybe that is a huge leak or weak/tight, but I didn't want to risk my whole stack to find out if I was drawing to 2 outs or he had AK.

I guess when I say I had the odds, I mean that if the flop is T74 I am doubling up off a huge part of his range (JJ+) guaranteed.

early325 11-01-2007 01:01 AM

Re: TT in reraised pot
 
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If I put him on that range though, aren't I deep enough to set mine? When I called PF my read was that he was very strong and I needed to hit a set, maybe that is a huge leak or weak/tight, but I didn't want to risk my whole stack to find out if I was drawing to 2 outs or he had AK.

I guess when I say I had the odds, I mean that if the flop is T74 I am doubling up off a huge part of his range (JJ+) guaranteed.

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yes but your hand has a lot more value than just set value unless villain is an enormous nit.

Dan87 11-01-2007 01:05 AM

Re: TT in reraised pot
 
90% of villains live are huge nits.

Plus I think my image is that of a calling station, and maybe if villain is thinking he will try to get max value out of me. I called a pot sized bet on the river a few hands earlier with 99 on A3455 board (villain had K3). I got a lot of wierd looks after that.

I guess I just made this thread because I really wasn't sure if my fold was good or bad. I guess without reads it can never be horrible though can it?

FishSticks 11-01-2007 01:06 AM

Re: TT in reraised pot
 
I dunno you're calling 18 to win what 262 I guess which is like 14:1 so that's not bad I suppose since you're 8:1 to hit obv - but the thing is there's a lot of times he has AK/AQ/anything else not JJ+, and you don't stack those holdings so often (and there's a lot of combos of those, and the times you get oversetted, yada yada...).

Suppose it's alright but close.

early325 11-01-2007 01:09 AM

Re: TT in reraised pot
 
yes in my (limited) experience playing live, they'll hardly double barrel here with AK/AQ.


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