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mackan 11-04-2007 09:57 AM

NL50 Second barrel?
 
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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He is not the kind of guy that limpcalls raises with a small pair. I think he is floating me on the flop, prob with a hand like 78,75 or just air. First i thought this turn was a good one to second barrel at, but I gues a picturecard is better.

I cant see him making that play without a boat. But I cant see why he wanna rr, couse hes full house cant stand a push from me. Looking at the hand it feels like hes bluffing me on the turn, but that is way to advanced for nl50.
Hero (SB): $51.65
BB: $111.60
UTG: $144
BTN: $7.25

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.50, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BB calls $2, UTG folds

Flop: ($5.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5

Turn: ($15.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $25</font>, Hero folds

Results: $37.50 Pot ($1.80 Rake)
BB mucked and WON $35.70 (+$17.20 NET)

whyzze 11-04-2007 10:00 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
very bad. He isn't folding a FH here ever. You are just folding out some floats. Give it up.

mackan 11-04-2007 10:02 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
I think the floats are a very big part of his range. If thatīs my read should i not be betting this turn?

Profish2285 11-04-2007 10:07 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
Why do you think that floats are part of his range though? This could just as easily be a 6 or a pocket pair. I personally dont like it, but I guess if youre that confident he can float alot, then just c/r the turn.

mackan 11-04-2007 10:21 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
Why should I not think floating is a big part of his range? This boards does not hit his limpcalling range I think, but I could be wrong. I dont see him L/C like 22-88 cos that is a bad play I think. So A6s, 76s maybe. But he is not raising those hands on the turn. Right?

Profish2285 11-04-2007 10:25 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
The reason why you shouldnt is because the typical NL50 opponent doesnt float figuring the board didnt hit your range, they play their cards.

mackan 11-04-2007 10:28 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
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The reason why you shouldnt is because the typical NL50 opponent doesnt float figuring the board didnt hit your range, they play their cards.

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This is where I think many people go wrong. People at low limits will bluff whery often, they just dont do it good.

Profish2285 11-04-2007 10:30 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
Okay, then pick a better spot, this is not a good one as you saw for yourself.

Yazoo 11-04-2007 10:33 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
IMO
If u think that float is part of his play,why not just check to induce a float, and then raise him. But I dont like call his raise or check-raise. i think check-fold is the best way.

Heine 11-04-2007 11:18 AM

Re: NL50 Second barrel?
 
Why bet when you aren't folding out any of his calling range on the flop? I like taking the free card to try and fill up, no reason to bet this turn.

Two reasons not to bet in this situation:

1. no value
We don't have any value here, if he was floating with 78, we are still ahead and there's no reason to bet him out of the pot.

2. We have outs
Take the free card and try to make a bigger full house. I wouldn't go crazy on the river if we fill up, but we can suck out and win the pot. With 3 fours on the board, i doubt he's folding a 6 to a turn bet, take the free card.


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