Specific rules for Moderators
 

Rule one: Moderators may never ban a poster for an infraction which did not occur in the forum they moderate. The only exception is when a spammy poster has gone crazy making multiple spam posts in multiple forums.

This place is now officially big. Lots of stuff is happening and mistakes will be made. Mistakes will also be corrected. However mistakes will only be corrected by the individual who made the mistake or by an administrator.

Rule two: Moderators may never, without authorization, overturn the decision of another moderator. No exceptions to this one.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...975&page=0


RB: Any violation of these rules will be dealt with on a case by case basis. However, mods shouldn't expect to be warned more than once if it comes up. That should always be enough.

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No unlocked stickies?

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Good rules.

I thought it better to ask here as it's more detail that discussion, but spamming would include scammers + people giving personal stuff about other posters, right? (like some fool did with EL D. details in BBV and I think NVG, whom I banned).

I'd hate to see some tard posting obv personal stuff across several forums, and feel I couldn't act to stop him.

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I trust you guys to know when an exception is appropriate. It's rule 2 which needs to be followed always.

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I trust you guys to know when an exception is appropriate.

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Given the recent events that have caused these rules to be put into place, and the continued lack of acknowledgement of [censored] up, I wonder if this trust is misplaced in some cases..........

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Exactly what I was hoping for Mat. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I agree with the rules and also agree with your reasoning of not allowing read only of the mod forum. Being a noob mod I can see how this is not stuff that trolls etc. should be accessing. It would also defeat the purpose of this forum.

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I like daver's suggestion of posting in ABT when a user is banned of suspended. I also like El D's suggestions, although it may not be realistic because some forums have different rules for decorum but in theory its a good idea that we should at least explore.

Lastly - Mat's rules are very good. And I don't mind if they are used retroactively unless he feels the infractions were due to miscommunication.

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Posting when a person is banned or suspended is a terrible idea.

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90% of my bans are for trolls or nobody posters who were obviously asking for it. All it will do is stir up crap as those people who hate mods pic nits.

I'm more interested in EL D's idea about definite lengths for bans for specific crimes, but I'm not sure how I feel yet. I think the system of "what seems appropriate" tends to work.

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this would not be ok.

i say not to worry about anymore specific guidelines and see if we can live in a more peaceful world with the 2 we got.

any objections?

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No, but I have to ask based on the link...do you view the forums threaded?!?

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no

i just wanted to link directly to my post

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Posting when a person is banned or suspended is a terrible idea.

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I disagree, it lets the person who was suspended know why, and it provides accountability from the mod. However Matt said no already so its a moot point. I'm a company guy, give me my orders and I march ahead even if I don't agree with them.
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It's too much to ask people to do. On the other hand, any moderator who chooses to do so, may.

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I disagree, it lets the person who was suspended know why, and it provides accountability from the mod. However Matt said no already so its a moot point. I'm a company guy, give me my orders and I march ahead even if I don't agree with them.
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They should already know why, that is why you type your reason in the box.

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this would not be ok.

i say not to worry about anymore specific guidelines and see if we can live in a more peaceful world with the 2 we got.

any objections?

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none whatsoever, i am extremely happy with how you are handling this mat

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I disagree, it lets the person who was suspended know why, and it provides accountability from the mod.

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Making reasons public can lead to a libel suit against 2+2 and the mod.

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These rules seem to say that I cannot ban someone because of a PM. Was that your intention?

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These rules seem to say that I cannot ban someone because of a PM. Was that your intention?

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I assume I am allowed to ban people that PM spam A/R posters that did not request a PM, especially those with zero posts. Am I correct on this assumption?

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just another post in agreement that a post every time you ban someone is a really bad idea. it will generate a ton of nitpicking and for OOT mods it would actually be kinda time consuming sometimes.

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this would not be ok.

i say not to worry about anymore specific guidelines and see if we can live in a more peaceful world with the 2 we got.

any objections?

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none whatsoever, i am extremely happy with how you are handling this mat

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zero post posters are there for target practice by all if they are pming users with spam

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just another post in agreement that a post every time you ban someone is a really bad idea. it will generate a ton of nitpicking and for OOT mods it would actually be kinda time consuming sometimes.

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Agree. As long as the notes are written about it so we know who banned and why, a listing is overkill and will create unnecessary drama.

I was gonna add exiles should be listed along with reasons why, but that's still already done in the oot sticky, isn't it?

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I would like to add: Moderators may not delete usernotes.

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I would like to add: Moderators may not delete usernotes.

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i've seen a few instances where i thought this might have happened recently... it's not loggable, is it? in the new software?

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Is banning a new account that clearly stated he's a previously banned poster - and his last account was a crazyapeshit spammer?

cos I just did that for supernikkas who was c4mg.

in this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post13108921


I think we already covered this, but wasn't 100% sure. Sorry if bad decision, plz reverse and I will flog and debase myself appropriately if I did a bad thing.

Re: Specific rules for Moderators
 

I think based on previous discussions that banned posters can come back with new accounts (as long as not 'ban on sight') but they need to behave and be discreet about having already been banned.

If not discreet I think it is on a 'case by case basis'. I also think if ban on sight we can ban 'across forums' but otherwise we pretty much deal with posters within our forums. Reds please correct as needed.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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