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chopstick 11-05-2007 09:35 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
[quote Sounds good. I think if you lose 3 buy-ins at 3-6 it's probably not your day and go home. I guess my question is more focused on NL. For example, I play mostly 2-5 NL and always buy in full. Say I get Aces cracked all-in pre-flop the first hand. Than lose another buy-in with set over set 20 minutes later. I as a beginner in this full time poker job am curious as to how the more experienced players would handle the situation. Do you bring many buy-ins and stay to play or do you pack up and call it a day?

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The "should I end the session" question has nothing to do with losing two buyins within an arbitrary amount of time. Both of the things you describe are going to happen, why does it matter how near or far apart the events are? Is the above any different to you than losing a buyin on your last hand of session A due to cracked aces, then losing the very first hand of session B the next time you play to set/oset? If so, it's time to start plugging leaks, of which tilt (and possibly superstition) is probably the most likely.

Just keep repeating to yourself: It's all just one big session.

And bring 3-4 buyins.

jjshabado 11-05-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
I'm not a pro.

I bring a thousand to play 1/2NL max buy in of 300. I rarely let my stack get below $200. After I've lost $500 or so I make myself take a break. If I'm sure that the game is good and I can still play well I'll buy in again, but I'll usually stop buying in at this point because I can go on some pretty good monkey tilt.

Sailboats 11-05-2007 10:06 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
I play LHE. And usually i would keep my money at the players bank of my reguluar casino, but if i was playing at a different casino or just felt like bring cash then i would bring enough for 4 racks in a 4 and 8 chip game. Generally if would play some 30/60 than i would still try and stick with my 4 rack rule. My usual stakes are 20/40 - 40/80 so between 2k and 4k in cash.

EWillers 11-05-2007 10:42 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
I usually play 2/5 but am always willing to sit in a 5/10 if it looks like a good game.

I take 5 buyins with me (5k). I keep 2 in one back pocket, 2 in another, and 1 inside a pocket new testament I keep in yet a 3rd pocket.

I've had what I call "two pockets" days, but I've never gone into the 3rd pocket.

99% of the time 4 buyins is sufficient. I think strong consideration should also be given to how difficult it would be to procure more funds on site if you find yourself runnin' horrible in a dream game.

pig4bill 11-05-2007 11:13 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
It depends on how you play and the type of game you usually play in. I know a guy that puts the Super in Super-LAG. I've seen him drop 8 buy-ins in a spread limit game at Bay 101 in an hour, win most of it back the second hour, and get well ahead in the third.

SNOWBALL 11-05-2007 11:20 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
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Something I was seriously wondering earlier while lying down for a nap. When you make the trip everyday to play poker how many buy-ins do you bring to the poker room? This is a serious dillemma for me. I would love to hear advice and strategy for different amounts. I am mostly talking about NL holdem here but another question would be how many big bets to bring if playing limit holdem.



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I like to have 50bb for limit, but the more the better. I rarely need that much, but I've been told it's good to have a lot of chips in front of you.

Albert Moulton 11-05-2007 11:30 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
Get a player's club account at the casino and keep your poker bankroll at the card room. Keep about 10-20 buy-ins in it.

If there is no way to keep an account at the casino, then bring at least 4 buy-ins, and if you have a down session, then leave while you still have more than 1 buy-in. IMO it's psychologically important to leave with money in your pocket. That way you leave because you want to, and not because you have to.

And have the money you need in your pocket in $100s. Avoid leaving the table to go to the ATM or even to the players account window. Have enough in your pocket to rebuy without batting an eyelash. I usually take $2000 out in cash to play $2/3 NL or $5/5 NL. I keep the $2K in my pocket. At the end of the night I put my cash (up or down) back in the account, then leave.

Oh, I'm not a pro, though.

Clover362 11-05-2007 11:59 PM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
If you're trying to make a living playing B&M, just get a box at your home casino and store your bankroll there.

redfisher 11-06-2007 04:34 AM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
Until you know the correct answer for you, I'd recommend not losing more than 3 buy-ins. If you find that you're still ready to play after a 3 BI beatdown, then bring more. FWIW, with my style, I've only gone down 3 BI in less that 8 hours once. Not to say it won't happen tomorrow, but I've generally found that by the end of a multi-buyin beatdown the games are starting to get bad. I may get stubborn and try to stick it out, but I end up in a crap game at 3 am with 5-9 other miserable stuck losers.

vgler 11-06-2007 05:48 AM

Re: Question for B&M pros
 
Playing mostly 2/4 NLHE and 2/4 or 2.5/5 PLO if itīs offered (€)

I am also addicted to the 2.5/3 buyin rule.

My edge seems big enough to take more BI to the table but I found out that it`s pretty tough (mental/tilt) to recover from the loss.

At live games youīll see often people with a total disregard for money plus sometimes they donīt even have a clue how to play poker. (Which doesnīt stop them from winning)

I had one day where I dropped 2 buyins in 10 hands due to a 2- and 4-outer on the river to a luckboxing grandpa from arabia.

Conclusion: I recommend using 2-3 BI also as some kind of stop-loss.


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