AK getting busy oop
 

Kind of a goofy line, but we're deep and I want to balance value and stack protection. Villain has one of those football player special avatars, but doesnt seem to play that well. Kinda semiloose passive play for the most part, no special reads.

So, what would you do differently if anything, and whats your river play since thats the street that matters the most?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Dry em: $1,002.25
Hero: $1,943.00
Duncan_08: $400.00
kmoneyk10: $1,397.50
313OG: $1,847.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
Duncan_08 calls $10.00, kmoneyk10 folds, <font color="red">313OG raises to $40.00</font>, Dry em folds, Hero calls $30.00, Duncan_08 calls $30.00

Flop: ($125) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $80.00</font>, Duncan_08 folds, <font color="red">313OG raises to $210.00</font>, Hero calls $130.00

Turn: ($545) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $350.00</font>, 313OG calls $350.00

River: ($1245) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">313OG bets $650.00</font>, Hero calls $650.00

Pot Size: $2,545.00 ($3 Rake)

Re: AK getting busy oop
 

Id rather cr allin the river than check call

Re: AK getting busy oop
 

I cannot for the life of me understand that turnlead, it looks completetly awful to me unless he's someone that you feel fine inducing and snapcalling with AK 200bb deep if he raises you on turn, and that seems pretty, well, unlikely.

Re: AK getting busy oop
 

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I cannot for the life of me understand that turnlead

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Yeah, are you trying to bluff him off the chop or what?

Re: AK getting busy oop
 

well i have no problem folding to a raise on the turn. I think checking puts me in the mystery zone (though betting might not narrow his range too much either). what would yall do, check/fold? check/call? if you c/c that doesnt seem very different than leading with intention to fold to a raise, except that he keeps the initiative

Re: AK getting busy oop
 

I'd lead for more than 2/3 pot on the flop, because of the the flop texture, something like ~$100.

I'd c/c turn and fold to any river aggression. You said he's passive, so I can't see him value betting anything worse, or 3-barrelling with air or a missed draw (QJ).

As played, I fold river. You really only beat QJ, and I think a lot of players pitch that on the turn. Also, his bet sizing seems like a value bet.

Re: AK getting busy oop
 

lets not forget the possibility of him raising the flop with a hand like AQ or AJ or really anything else, and picking up a backdoor flush draw on the turn. Not saying thats a huge part of his range, but its certainly a possibility.

And I think the river might be a fold, it does look a lot like a valuebet. I don't know if i'm deep enough to conceivably c/r though, I think he'll crying call with most anything good.

Re: AK getting busy oop
 

Passive players usually don't raise with total air on the flop in 3-way pots with boards like this, so I can't see him having something like A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]X that often. A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J or A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q is a possibility but I tend to discount its likelihood because you said he was somewhat passive. I guess it's still part of his range, but a small part of it.