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HWO 11-21-2006 08:24 AM

JTo Semibluff turn
 
Villain: 25/15/2.3

i thought he might fold a hand like AJ, KJ no hearts but he didn't so im not sure about the raise being the correct move

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Kwaz 11-21-2006 08:43 AM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
The fact that nearly all his weaker hands call the turn raise and practically none of his better hands can 3bet is a decent reason to raise. Sugar coat that with your super sweet draw and the fact that you're never getting a river bet from his weaker hands and I like how you played this.

TheGunner 11-21-2006 08:44 AM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
I like it.

raze 11-21-2006 08:59 AM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
I'm not a fan of folding-equity plays on the turn (seems like no one ever folds to me!!), but this is a great spot to do it.

27offsooot 11-21-2006 09:04 AM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
if u're going to raise the turn, i think u need to bet the river.

raze 11-21-2006 09:29 AM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
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if u're going to raise the turn, i think u need to bet the river.

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Why?

CaptainBusto 11-21-2006 09:39 AM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
what do you do against a turn 3bet here? call down?

27offsooot 11-21-2006 12:01 PM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
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if u're going to raise the turn, i think u need to bet the river.

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Why?

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Oh wait, nm, u have a pair. I misread the hand. I think this hand looks good then.

Jiggymike 11-21-2006 01:58 PM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
This is nice 4-handed. I was going to advocate throwing away JTo in a 6-handed game UTG though, is that wrong?

Nfinity 11-21-2006 02:22 PM

Re: JTo Semibluff turn
 
Really on the fence on this one, because we have to call a 3-bet on the Turn, and it could get us into a RIO situation if we do improve.

I'll think this one over, but I guess it would depend heavilly on his likelihood he would fold QQ-AA, and how aggressively he might play a naked A or K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on this turn, A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Jx or something like that.

Whats your 3-betting range for him?


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