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badatmath 10-22-2007 03:32 PM

A few hands
 
Here are a few spots that came up recently where I wasn't sure what to do. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Matt

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t3735)
SB (t4730)
Hero (t1675)
UTG (t470)
UTG+1 (t1905)
MP1 (t4525)
MP2 (t2425)
MP3 (t1155)
CO (t1600)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t470</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t1905</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t1905, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t4355) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Turn: (t4355) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t4355) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t4355

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t1445)
CO (t7220)
Button (t13085)
Hero (t6490)
BB (t1135)
UTG (t555)
UTG+1 (t3350)
MP1 (t4590)
MP2 (t14950)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t300, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t300, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t900</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1110</font>, UTG calls t230 (All-In), CO folds, Button calls t210.

Flop: (t3225) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t3225) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t3225) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3225

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t7280)
MP2 (t3511)
CO (t8520)
Hero (t3805)
SB (t1335)
BB (t13064)
UTG (t2125)
UTG+1 (t11345)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t1100) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t3200</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2700

ssnyc 10-22-2007 03:38 PM

Re: A few hands
 
call hand one...

fold hand two

fold hand 3 pre

Dunkman 10-22-2007 03:42 PM

Re: A few hands
 
This looks like a good fold, although I wouldn't fault you for calling since it's AK and you can't really be very wrong getting AIPF with it in a small stakes tourney.

The second hand is kinda iffy, button raises 2 limpers and you automatically muck AQs. Seeing that you would have flopped the nuts is probably influencing me, but still I think you can play there.

The third hand kinda sucks because fully a third of the deck would have really helped you on the turn (A, 6, d) but I would probably have tossed out the cbet in this spot.

BrandiFan 10-22-2007 03:44 PM

Re: A few hands
 
What limits are these? Since you didn't notice any special circumstances/reads I assume there are none.
#1 might be close depending on the game, but I probably fold unless utg+1 has been a total lagtard.

#2 looks like a shove

#3 standard, I usually fold Ax there with &lt;20xbb but stealing is fine too

ssnyc 10-22-2007 03:46 PM

Re: A few hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
What limits are these? Since you didn't notice any special circumstances/reads I assume there are none.
#1 might be close depending on the game, but I probably fold unless utg+1 has been a total lagtard.

#2 looks like a shove

#3 standard, I usually fold Ax there with &lt;20xbb but stealing is fine too

[/ QUOTE ]

oops...Brandi is usually pretty lose to spot on Iif a bit tight)...mau have to review my answers as they contradict hers

ZenMusician 10-22-2007 04:39 PM

Re: A few hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
#1 I fold unless utg+1 has been a total MORON.

#2 shove

#3 standard...fold

[/ QUOTE ]

-ZEN

SharkTank43 10-22-2007 04:43 PM

Re: A few hands
 
Hand 1: I fold this almost always. I very rarely fold AK preflop in donkaments, but a 1st position raise followed by a large second position reraise follwed by a middle position cold call screams that there is definetley some big hands out there. I wouldn't expect to see anything but QQ+ from the mid position cold caller (unless this is a $3 MTT or maybe a $12 turbo or something.)

Hand 2: I Stick it all in preflop for sure.

Hand 3: Preflop is fine, I defintely check behind on the flop, BB would call preflop with alot of hands that hit that flop.

umistboy 10-22-2007 04:56 PM

Re: A few hands
 
Hand 1: Yeah I don't like calling here and having ti have he best hand win. AK should always have some FE I think when you're playing for your stack.

Hand 2: I shove. Looks like button is trying something fishy.

Hand 3: Fold. had to try c/b but no joy.

badatmath 10-22-2007 06:58 PM

Re: A few hands
 
Thanks for the replies. The buyins were in the $4 range and no reads.

JARID 10-22-2007 07:24 PM

Re: A few hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the replies. The buyins were in the $4 range and no reads.

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1. Push, but this is a fold at some higher buy-ins
2. Push, but the optimal play is really read dependant. Do you understand why?
3. Fold pre, if you do steal and get to where you are, check back on this flop and proceed from there.

Jarid


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