J9s on the river
 

MP is 28/18/2 and seems pretty solid. CO is unknown.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="blue">Hero?</font>

What do you think so far?

What do you do on the river?

Does your answer change against an unknown?


Thanks,
Cartman

Re: J9s on the river
 

Hey Cartman,

I would let this one go on the turn. That said, i'm kind of a postflop nit lately and i'd love to hear otherwise.

If you made it to the river it's b/c you think he's capable of semibluffing/betting too much so i'd call the river since the Q doesn't change much.

Surf

Re: J9s on the river
 

I always like multiway flops with mid pairs because it allows me to fold well on the turn against most anybody. Board's awful drawey so I could be persuaded to call down I guess, but if he's behind and drawing he'll usually have a monster draw, and he's not behind by much.

Re: J9s on the river
 

If you were MP here holding, say, AQ, how would you play the hand?

Re: J9s on the river
 

I fold the turn unless the villian is out of line.

Re: J9s on the river
 

easy fold, normally I'd fold the turn unless the guy plays draws aggressively.

The only hands you were really beating on the flop is KQ or QJ

Re: J9s on the river
 

[ QUOTE ]
If you were MP here holding, say, AQ, how would you play the hand?

[/ QUOTE ]

I would typically call the flop raise and fold unimproved on the turn. Is that correct?

Re: J9s on the river
 

I fold this turn also - not only are you unimproved but the 5 pairs the board and eliminates your Js as outs against an overpair.

Re: J9s on the river
 

I generally won't raise the flop; I'll have a look at the turn and decide to check-and-see (sometimes call, sometimes raise, sometimes fold), or donk.

Re: J9s on the river
 

Would you entertain the idea of 3-betting to try and isolate what is possibly a draw?