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lowpockets 11-27-2007 07:01 PM

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Wow, why do so many people check behind on this flop? He misses it so much here it isn't funny. Even when he doesn't miss it completely, you might still be ahead.

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Sorry but this is completely wrong. This is one of the worst flops imaginable in terms of hitting a cold-callers range.

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Sorry, but its not. If you bet 2/3 pot and then get repopped then you will have a reason to narrow his range. Otherwise, the ranges people are assigning are just unrealistic. To the person that said this is a mindless C-bet, I couldn't disagree more. Give me a QJK two suited flop and then I slow down, otherwise if you aren't cbetting this in position, you are losing to much value on this hand and others.

ajmargarine 11-27-2007 11:05 PM

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Give me a QJK two suited flop and then I slow down

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To me, you have it backwards. I'll CB my 66 on the KQJ flop alot more than the OP flop.

loosbastard 11-27-2007 11:24 PM

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 
flop is an easy check. wtf ppl?

river is a check too

members_only 11-28-2007 12:17 AM

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 
Could someone explain to me why raising the turn is good?

Requin 11-28-2007 12:21 AM

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 
I'll check flop against a good aggro player, otherwise I usually just cbet, I don't think there's that big a difference though (against an unknown). Check river.

terp 11-28-2007 02:26 AM

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 
hand looks good

super easy check now

pineapple888 11-28-2007 03:46 AM

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Could someone explain to me why raising the turn is good?

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Protect against a draw/worse hands will call

Don Key E37 11-28-2007 05:51 AM

Re: Ric Flair says Whooooooooooo
 
How quick did he check river? People with a 10 seem to think a bit before they check. I could see betting if he insta checked, like 50 or something that looked like it wanted a call

bilbo-san 11-28-2007 03:24 PM

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You think unsuited broadway cards are not a big part of an "unremarkable"'s range? I guess I disagree there.

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As a percentage of his overall range, it is.

His cold-calling range is pretty wide, so combinatorics should tell you that KQo, QJo, KJo, AJo aren't a big part of the range.


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