call or shove?
 

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($206.10)
UTG ($459.60)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($446.81)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($271)</font>
Button ($197)
SB ($230.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $8.

Flop: ($23) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($23) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $22</font>, MP calls $20.

River: ($67) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $104</font>, Hero ??

opponent is 64/14/2

haven't seen him do much so far as i am fairly new to the table

Re: call or shove?
 

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opponent is 64/14/2

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how is this a question?

Re: call or shove?
 

Shove ldo and bet flop for value.

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tons of missed value with the flop check

obv shove now wtf

Re: call or shove?
 

i think Cbetting the flop backfires alot, you can't stand a raise. i'll start Cbetting this when i know more about his tendancies. i think that checking behind is a bit better, and we can start him bluffing on other streets too.

looking at it again, it's only T8 that beats us, so the shove is better

Re: call or shove?
 

Q10 is the only hand I'm worried about here. He's 64/14, so his range here is miles wider and includes roughly 746.3 busted draws or most random pairs. Getitingetitingetitin.

Re: call or shove?
 

easy shove specially vs this dude

Re: call or shove?
 

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Q10 is the only hand I'm worried about here. He's 64/14, so his range here is miles wider and includes roughly 746.3 busted draws or most random pairs. Getitingetitingetitin.

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oh yeah i thought there were more straight draws. just one and i would shove.

i obviously am never folding here, just wandering whether there was more merit in shoving, as it looked like he had a draw by his minbet on the turn. obviously if he did have a draw there would be little point shoving

Re: call or shove?
 

i chose to call in the end instead of shoving and he had Q6dd for a busted flush draw