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Perhan 01-05-2007 08:40 AM

Check or bet ?
 
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Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (1 BB) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)</font>
SB bets</font>,Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: (5 BB) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ?

Final Pot: 5 BB

LimitGod 01-05-2007 08:48 AM

Re: Check or bet ?
 
Thin either way. Make the river a 4c and I fire no problem.

sharpie 01-05-2007 08:53 AM

Re: Check or bet ?
 
Raise PF, bet the flop. As played easy river value bet, although I might not raise the turn.

Bullitos 01-05-2007 09:44 AM

Re: Check or bet ?
 
You should raise preflop.

Bet any (90%) non raised flop in a SB-BB battle when checked to in BB. So bet this one also.

Raising the turn is strong here, I like it. I wouldn't have done it myself but I think it's better than calling, since a K and JT would have probably bet the flop. Betting the river is a must since nothing really changed with that card.

Perhan 01-05-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Check or bet ?
 
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Raising the turn is strong here, I like it. I wouldn't have done it myself but I think it's better than calling

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you think raising is better then calling but you wouldn't do it your self! What would you do then ? Fold ? Please do reply.

jrz1972 01-05-2007 10:34 AM

Re: Check or bet ?
 
Raise preflop, planning to bet the flop no matter what.

As played, bet the flop.

As played, the turn is okay. I might just call because villain will often fold to your raise but might be inclined to fire again on the river if you just call.

Bet the river.

stonescar 01-05-2007 12:43 PM

Re: Check or bet ?
 
I raise this preflop. I raise alot of opencompleters preflop for metagame reasons. This hand is definately strong enough to raise for equity. Against some opponents I guess checking behind planning to bet or raise a lot of flops is also good.

The way you played it I bet any flop when checked to (until I meet an opponent bright enough to pick up on it). After villain checking preflop and flop I'm pretty sure I have the best hand, but I'm not sure I would raise the turn. In this little pot the turn raise is so strong he might fold hands he could have bet again on river. Against thinking opponents I like raising turn more, to set up for turnbluffs later.

After he calls your turnraise I think he's going to showdown with a lot of worse hands, so IMO it's an easy value bet.

EDIT:
After reading the answers I guess my post is just "repeat jrz" [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

jba 01-05-2007 12:54 PM

Re: Check or bet ?
 
i raise preflop (and would cont bet the flop). I might even stab the flop as you played it. nice turn play after checking through, and I would definitely bet the river.

Bullitos 01-05-2007 01:25 PM

Re: Check or bet ?
 
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Raising the turn is strong here, I like it. I wouldn't have done it myself but I think it's better than calling

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you think raising is better then calling but you wouldn't do it your self! What would you do then ? Fold ? Please do reply.

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I would have just called here in the heat of the battle, but I do think raising is better. That's what I meant.

TomBrooks 01-05-2007 01:27 PM

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Raise PF, bet the flop. As played easy river value bet, although I might not raise the turn.

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