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donkeykong2 11-16-2007 03:14 PM

correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
well the obvious answer to this post could be: "it depends" like basicly everything in poker. so as an assumption i assume an opponent with decent skills comparable to yours not a donkey you can fool into believing you have tons of great hands which will make him fold all the time nor the other donkey who will call you down every time although you havent shown any bluffing tendencies at all.
i think the easiest street to determine the correct bluffing frequency is the river. if you make a pot sized bet it should be at 2-1 (value, bluff). but what about the other streets? What about the difference between in and out of position? Can anyone come up with good stuff and a solid game theoretical argument for it? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
thanks in advance!

donkeykong2 11-16-2007 03:16 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
one thing id like to contribute is that against any solid player you probably cant get away with bluffing too much/less in a common spot in the long run while you might be able to be in uncommon spots where his assumption on your range is more vague.

edit: this is not directly related to the original question so you may just ignore it for discussion.

donkeykong2 11-16-2007 09:55 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
lol, i hope msnl hasnt collectively put me on their ignore list [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

obiedman 11-16-2007 10:44 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
5

ArturiusX 11-16-2007 11:02 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
This is probably way more content then this thread deserves, but its all about changing gears.

LucidDream 11-16-2007 11:05 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
this thread should be called "How do I play poker...someone teach me".

MatthewRyan 11-16-2007 11:06 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
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imo 6 > 5 >7

donkeykong2 11-17-2007 07:38 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
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This is probably way more content then this thread deserves, but its all about changing gears.

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o rly? other people say changing gears is a stupid concept in general and they play the same style almost all of the time (player adjusted obv).

donkeykong2 11-17-2007 07:39 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
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this thread should be called "How do I play poker...someone teach me".

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what do you think this forum is all about?

obiedman 11-17-2007 07:41 PM

Re: correct bluffing frequencies on flop/turn/river ip and oop
 
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imo 6 > 5 >7

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eh i guess you're right. 6 is so much more rounded that 5 is. obv 7 is the worst, it's just way too straight forward.


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