Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

Very early in this session. Had 0 read on villain up to this point.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $102.20
UTG+1: $63.25
MP1: $25
MP2: $94.15
MP3: $99
CO: $120.70
Button: $73.20
Hero: $109.15
BB: $21

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $4</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $50</font>,

Hero??

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

Without reads this looks like a fold. What hands check behind on flop yet raise huge on non scare card turns? Look like set or air, and probably not worth to find out which one

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

Without any reads I think you have to fold here vs. an unknown. Unless villian is an unusually aggressive bluffer or severely overvalues his hands, I can't put him on anything here that you beat.

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

lol are you serious? You guys kill me. He was last to act on the flop and he checked it. I would Push here, yes i said it i would push.

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

did gutshot just get there? I can't put MP2 on a hand.
Actually, 22 makes sense.

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

he would have to have the 2 remaining twos out there which is unlikely...

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

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Without reads this looks like a fold. What hands check behind on flop yet raise huge on non scare card turns? Look like set or air, and probably not worth to find out which one

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yeah, looks like 54, 33, 22, or A3 to me...he can't be in there with queens up (Q2 or Q3)...so you're only beating a bluff seems like.

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

hello 45. Although unknowns always slowplay in the dumbest of spots, so lots of hands are possible.

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

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he would have to have the 2 remaining twos out there which is unlikely...

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What hand can you put him on other than ducks?
With pf limp and check behind on the flop, I think 22 protecting against draws is the only had that makes sense. Perhaps 45 suited sometimes.

Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.
 

Fold preflop when BB raises - you are OOP the entire hand with a really vulnerable holding, facing a limp caller and a raiser in the middle.

What flop makes you want to continue with A2s?

Just fold and dont give it a second thought, it simply isnt worth $3.