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ligastar 11-14-2007 05:05 PM

2007-08 North Carolina Tar Heels Basketball (San Antonio Here We Come)
 
The Tar Heels open their season as the consensus #1 team tonight against Davidson. The game is being played at Bobcat Arena in Charlotte. UNC comes off a 31-7 campaign in '06-'07 where the Heels won the ACC tournament for the first time since 1998. There were many positives last season but it all got lost in the crushing Elite Eight loss to Georgetown - a game in which UNC self-destructed and inexplicably coughed up their ticket to Atlanta and another Final Four. Roy Williams is looking for his 6th career Final Four in what will be his 20th year as an NCAA coach.

The team revolves around All-American Tyler Hansbrough, a complete beast of a player. There is a good chance "Psycho T" will set the career UNC records for FTs made and FTs attempted this year (which is his junior year). Hansbrough headlines a monster frontcourt that includes sophmores Alex Stepheson and Deon Thompson. Thompson has shed many pounds this off-season and is the team's pick as most improved coming out of the summer. At the small forward position Carolina plugs in their best defensive player - junior Marcus Ginyard. Ginyard has also become the vocal leader of the team when that position needed to be filled towards the end of last year's ACC schedule. Also playing the 3 will be versatile Danny Green, one of the most talented players wearing a North Carolina jersey this season. Green can fill it up from the outside and also has the ability to lead the team in blocks some games. He is a fun player to watch and the team will need his 3 point stroke to be on this year.

When you think of North Carolina the talk of quality point guards is usually in the mix. Players like Phil Ford, Jeff McInnis, Raymond Felton, Derrick Phelps, "Easy" Ed Cota, etc., etc. This list goes on and on. This season is no different as UNC wheels out the fastest PG in the nation Ty Lawson. Word out of Chapel Hill is that the 5'11" sophomore had the highest winning % during the famous summer pick up games in the Dean Dome. Carolina is 3 deep at PG as lone senior Quentin Thomas "QT" will be backing up Lawson. Bobby Frasor, who started all 31 games at PG as a freshman, is also in the mix. The shooting guard spot belongs to sophomore Wayne Ellington. The 6'4" Pennsylvania native has a lot of pressure on him this season. If Ellington shoots the 3 at a 40%+ clip, UNC can book their ticket to San Antonio. If Ellington (and others like Green, Frasor, Lawson, Graves) struggles the Heels will find themselves in a similar situation as last years G'town game. Ellington had a 3 point shot at the buzzer to beat the Hoyas but missed it. Here is what he had to say after the game, "That just pushes me harder to want to make the next one and to work harder to get more prepared to make the next one."

In the final analysis, the talent, coaching and passion is in place for UNC to hoist another championship banner. The journey starts tonight and Heels fans have already circled April 7th, 2008 on their calendars in anticipation of another coronation.

Brag: I'll be in Las Vegas over Thanksgiving to watch the Heels take on Old Dominion and (if they beat ODU) the winner for the B.Y.U. / Louisville game. It could be two top 5 teams facing off later this month!

capone0 11-14-2007 05:24 PM

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I'll hope to go as well. I'm not an alum but a huge fan (I want to get an MBA there in a couple of years). I could have gone to St. Louis a couple of years ago but I chickened out and I live in Memphis, just a 4 hour drive. I will be going if they go this time. Maybe Memphis will make it as well (not a huge fan of theres but I've been to more of their games).

DukeSucks 11-14-2007 05:41 PM

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Can't wait for tonight. Should be a great season. I agree that Ellington is the key this year. We really need someone to step up and be the person that is confident that every 3 is going in. The last two title teams both had that in Donald Williams and McCants.

I also look for a monster year from Stepheson. He showed some great moments last year.

Have you heard anything about Frasor's foot from last year? If he is back to form he will be a great steady backup to Lawson.

RUFFNECK 11-14-2007 06:24 PM

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I love our chances this year.

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Carolina is 3 deep at PG as lone senior Quentin Thomas "QT" will be backing up Lawson.

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For god sakes though I hope Roy will keep "QT" off the floor as much as possible. He is a turnover machine with terrible court vision and a absolutely horrible shooting touch. I have cringed every time he has entered the game for the last 3 years.

Keep Frasor in that backup role please please please.

tarheeljks 11-14-2007 06:25 PM

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i am so psyched

capone0 11-14-2007 06:33 PM

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All my other teams are terrible this year. For the love of god, don't suck UNC.

ligastar 11-14-2007 06:50 PM

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DukeSucks - Frasor is over the foot injury.

Ruffneck - Stats for last season:

Lawson: 2.6 A/TO
QT: 2.2 A/TO
Frasor: 2.2 A/TO

QT took 16 shots (2 of those were 3s) in 27 games played last season. His shooting sux but he never shoots so it is a non-issue (in the sense that he doesn't take many shots, but obv you want a PG that the defense has to honor at least a little bit).

capone0 11-14-2007 08:27 PM

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Guess not wtf.

ligastar 11-14-2007 08:59 PM

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Well, it turned out to be a solid first 20 minutes. If you asked me if UNC would be leading at half w/ Lawson at 3 fouls and 0 pts I would have laughed. But with Psycho T at 12 pts and 11 boards (and he drew about 10 fouls on Davidson), that is the difference maker. My favorite player, Frasor, has a good stroke and 5 pts.

32% of Davidson's 34 shots have been 3s. 19% of UNC's 26 shots have been 3s.

UNC's D looked awful early but then we exposed and broke down Davidson over the final 10 minutes or so.

UNC was favored in the game by 11 pts.

ligastar 11-14-2007 09:02 PM

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Guess not wtf.

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capone -
what r u referring to here?

capone0 11-14-2007 09:06 PM

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They were getting killed. And Lawson got in huge foul trouble.

RandALLin 11-14-2007 09:11 PM

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Okay enough joking around here at Davidson. Srsly.

Pudge714 11-14-2007 09:25 PM

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Okay enough joking around here at Davidson. Srsly.

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capone0 11-14-2007 09:25 PM

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So sloppy.

ligastar 11-14-2007 09:26 PM

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They were getting killed. And Lawson got in huge foul trouble.

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Ahhh, I see.

capone0 11-14-2007 09:28 PM

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I said earlier, all my teams suck. And then I said UNC is the only team with a chance. Then they start blowing donkey balls.

capone0 11-14-2007 09:32 PM

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Kill me now, please.

Pudge714 11-14-2007 09:36 PM

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I said earlier, all my teams suck. And then I said UNC is the only team with a chance. Then they start blowing donkey balls.

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I have realized there is a chance that in addition to the Redsox, the Patriots and Senators will win the Super Bowl and Stanley Cup respectively, if dook somehow wins as well I will be on suicide watch.

ligastar 11-14-2007 09:38 PM

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TY refs for the "and 1" for Lawson. Our first gift from the stripes, while Davidson has 12 such gifts tonight.

ligastar 11-14-2007 09:39 PM

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I said earlier, all my teams suck. And then I said UNC is the only team with a chance. Then they start blowing donkey balls.

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I have realized there is a chance that in addition to the Redsox, the Patriots and Senators will win the Super Bowl and Stanley Cup respectively, if dook somehow wins as well I will be on suicide watch.

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lol, good one.

Pudge714 11-14-2007 09:44 PM

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"That just pushes me harder to want to make the next one and to work harder to get more prepared to make the next one."


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QFT

ligastar 11-14-2007 09:48 PM

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where is the 5 second call on richards, lawson had 7 seconds there

capone0 11-14-2007 09:49 PM

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I guess this is going to be an exciting year. I prefer blowouts. Rofl.

ligastar 11-14-2007 09:51 PM

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I guess this is going to be an exciting year. I prefer blowouts. Rofl.

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I believe Davidson is a top 30 team with about a 15-18% shot at making the Sweet 16.

capone0 11-14-2007 09:52 PM

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I know. I think UNC should be a little better though.

capone0 11-14-2007 09:57 PM

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No call on the drive. Horrible screen call. Come on.

ligastar 11-14-2007 10:03 PM

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I know. I think UNC should be a little better though.

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Ellington hitting that 2 pt jumper is what every Heel wanted to see tonight.

RandALLin 11-14-2007 10:08 PM

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*exhales*

capone0 11-14-2007 10:08 PM

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Definitely huge. HE was great this game. Same can't be said for Tyler and Lawson but I know. But I know they can play well.

ligastar 11-14-2007 10:11 PM

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*exhales*

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I'll take it. A sluggish start to the season but a win, on the road, against one of the 65 teams in the Dance.

I'd like to see Roy ratchet up the heat on officials that call such a poorly officiated game. I'm not one to talk about refs; however, when it is warranted I'm there every time.

Edit to say -

Davidson shot 4 of 21 (19%) from 3.

Lawson's 8 pts came in the games last 8 minutes.


DukeSucks 11-14-2007 10:14 PM

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This game had me nervous going in. Glad we got the win. Ellington looked good. I had to run to the store during the game; it always reminds me of my childhood to hear Woody Durham on the radio.

Curry's release reminds me a lot of his dad's. I remember seeing him run around on the court before Hornet games when he was about 3 years old.

ligastar 11-14-2007 10:18 PM

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This game had me nervous going in. Glad we got the win. Ellington looked good. I had to run to the store during the game; it always reminds me of my childhood to hear Woody Durham on the radio.

Curry's release reminds me a lot of his dad's. I remember seeing him run around on the court before Hornet games when he was about 3 years old.

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very cool

DukeSucks 11-14-2007 10:20 PM

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yeah, but it makes me feel old [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

LurchySoprano 11-14-2007 10:26 PM

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Here are my thoughts:

1.) The worst officiated game I've seen in a very long time. I'm not sure who those referees were, but I hope that we never see them again this year. They were awful on both sides and totally dictated the game.

2.) My main concern tonight deals with the lack of getting the ball to the post. Deon, Alex, and Tyler combined for just 12 shots and that simply will not cut it in many games this year. We must look to get the ball inside more.

3.) Bobby Frasor makes this team MUCH better. I just feel very comfortable when he's on the floor and if he can begin to hit the open three then this team gets that much better.

4.) Wayne Ellington shut a lot of people up on this board tonight. If he continues to not only look for his jump shot, but more importantly drive to the basket, he'll be very tough for other teams to match up with.

5.) Very disappointed in Deon tonight. I'm not sure if it was first game jitters or if it was just an off night, but that was a downright awful performance. Poor hands, poor footwork and just a very poor night overall.

ligastar 11-14-2007 10:38 PM

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Here are my thoughts:

1.) The worst officiated game I've seen in a very long time. I'm not sure who those referees were, but I hope that we never see them again this year. They were awful on both sides and totally dictated the game.

2.) My main concern tonight deals with the lack of getting the ball to the post. Deon, Alex, and Tyler combined for just 12 shots and that simply will not cut it in many games this year. We must look to get the ball inside more.

3.) Bobby Frasor makes this team MUCH better. I just feel very comfortable when he's on the floor and if he can begin to hit the open three then this team gets that much better.

4.) Wayne Ellington shut a lot of people up on this board tonight. If he continues to not only look for his jump shot, but more importantly drive to the basket, he'll be very tough for other teams to match up with.

5.) Very disappointed in Deon tonight. I'm not sure if it was first game jitters or if it was just an off night, but that was a downright awful performance. Poor hands, poor footwork and just a very poor night overall.

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what he said.

damn, LurchySoprano, great post. are you a UNC beat writer for a small town NC newspaper?

LurchySoprano 11-14-2007 10:46 PM

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Haha no, just a Carolina fan since birth so 23 years or so. Grew up in a split household (2 Duke fans, 2 UNC fans) so that game was always fun.

ligastar 11-14-2007 11:19 PM

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my friend that lives in charlotte was at the game and said:


agree with all that, especially the officiating. We
were sitting way up and it was easy to see from there.
By the way, this was a tough ticket, some said they
saw people paying 150-250 per seat.

ligastar 11-14-2007 11:26 PM

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Haha no, just a Carolina fan since birth so 23 years or so. Grew up in a split household (2 Duke fans, 2 UNC fans) so that game was always fun.

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you post on IC too right?

LurchySoprano 11-14-2007 11:42 PM

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Haha no, just a Carolina fan since birth so 23 years or so. Grew up in a split household (2 Duke fans, 2 UNC fans) so that game was always fun.

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you post on IC too right?

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Yup under the same name. Do you post over there? Great site for recruiting info, but the boards are rough sometimes.

Spota 11-14-2007 11:45 PM

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*exhales*

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Bilas (I think?) mentioned that Joe Holiday was Steve Hale's high school coach. Very cool, I didnt know that.

Also reminds me of one of the Cameron Crazy chants after Steve Hale punctured a lung. Inhale...Exhale.


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