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ncboiler 10-28-2007 12:04 AM

NL100\" Can We Fold This Over Pair?
 
Villain is 20/10/3 with no read.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+2: $238.20
MP1: $176.65
MP2: $168.55
CO: $63.30
Hero (BTN): $98.50
SB: $42.20
BB: $56
UTG: $89.25
UTG+1: $133.10

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to $11</font>, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($23.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+2 bets $13</font>, Hero...?

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GT30 10-28-2007 12:13 AM

Re: NL100\" Can We Fold This Over Pair?
 
I was leaning towards fold until I noticed that villian was having a good session and might be feeling a little more aggro b/c of this. This might warrant a call and re eval on the turn.

is this weak?

ncboiler 10-28-2007 12:18 AM

Re: NL100\" Can We Fold This Over Pair?
 
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I was leaning towards fold until I noticed that villian was having a good session

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How do you know this?

Effen 10-28-2007 12:21 AM

Re: NL100\" Can We Fold This Over Pair?
 
He's referring to his stack size (240 bbs).

Limp/MINrerase is typically KK/AA though tonight I saw JJ. But really its almost always AA or KK here, and a fold is ok.

GT30 10-28-2007 12:35 AM

Re: NL100\" Can We Fold This Over Pair?
 
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He's referring to his stack size (240 bbs).


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correct, normal range at this limit for most full stackers making that type of pf rr is QQ+ but if you don't have many hands w/ this villian it could be a semi-donk on a rush raising w/ any pp or AQ+

agoldenbear 10-28-2007 01:36 AM

Re: NL100\" Can We Fold This Over Pair?
 
I sometimes limp/reraise with AK if I think the situation's right, bc i don't want the move to always signal AA/KK to my observant opponetns.

Also, if you're a consistent button raiser, I think his limp reraising range might be a touch wider, including AQs and JJ. However, I think he would 3-bet to a much larger amount if he had these more vulnerable hands (AK AQs and JJ).

His $13 flop bet looks kind of weak, unless you think he's considering the texture of the flop and the fact that he doesn't have to bet much to make your call incorrect, given you have one of the likely hands for raising and calling a 3-bet (99-QQ and AK, AQ).

So yeah his pf limp/min raise looks like AA/KK, but his flop bet looks weak if he doesn't think about board texture relative to your range. I might make one call, and dump the hand on the turn if he makes a strong bet. If you raise his flop bet, you are putting more than 1/3 or your stack in when a reraise from the villain would surely mean AA/KK and calling the rest of your stack would be -EV.

ncboiler 10-28-2007 01:49 AM

Re: NL100\" Can We Fold This Over Pair?
 
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He's referring to his stack size (240 bbs).

Limp/MINrerase is typically KK/AA though tonight I saw JJ. But really its almost always AA or KK here, and a fold is ok.

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Folded. Thanks. Just wondering if I am sane.

Peak01 10-28-2007 04:13 AM

Re: NL100\" Can We Fold This Over Pair?
 
I like the fold here.


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