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nazahl 11-20-2007 02:01 AM

AKs preflop
 
villain is sirocko, 200nl reg

over 209 hands I have him running at 12/11/3 but that has to be a sample size issue cause he doesnt seem that nitty. maybe others have more stats on him.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $481.80
SB: $459.90
BB: $285.85
Hero (UTG): $207
MP: $203
CO: $49.35

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $26</font>, BB folds, Hero ???

I kinda wanna fold

spivey 11-20-2007 02:04 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
I have sirocko as 13/12/4 over 1.6k hands, with a 3.5% 3 bet, and a 20 ASB. This all adds up to nit, and against a nit, I fold.

pineapple888 11-20-2007 02:31 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
I'm never folding in position, unless I have a better read than this. Esp ZOMG suited. Call.

Golfdish 11-20-2007 03:00 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
How do we find the 3bet %?

holdme 11-20-2007 03:01 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
i fold

pineapple888 11-20-2007 03:03 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
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How do we find the 3bet %?

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Some huds have it directly. From PAHud you can infer it from his "call pfr".

PBJaxx 11-20-2007 03:15 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
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How do we find the 3bet %?

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Some huds have it directly. From PAHud you can infer it from his "call pfr".

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Details on PAHUD method?

mendacity 11-20-2007 03:19 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
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I'm never folding in position, unless I have a better read than this. Esp ZOMG suited. Call.

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Nits don't three bet pairs 88&lt; xx &lt; TT; let's concern ourselves with other parts of their range, namely other big Aces. Aside from AK in this situation. We can assume villain took notice to your UTG open and isn't 3-betting (light) with AQ, etc. Folding is becoming more appealing.

pineapple888 11-20-2007 03:26 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
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I'm never folding in position, unless I have a better read than this. Esp ZOMG suited. Call.

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Nits don't three bet pairs 88&lt; xx &lt; TT; let's concern ourselves with other parts of their range, namely other big Aces. Aside from AK in this situation. We can assume villain took notice to your UTG open and isn't 3-betting (light) with AQ, etc. Folding is becoming more appealing.

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So he's on [JJ+, AK]? Fine. Let's see a flop.

mendacity 11-20-2007 03:33 AM

Re: AKs preflop
 
We're narrowing down his range to JJ+, QQ+ (which we don't stack when we make pairs, and KK, AA. The latter two, we always stack off to when making tptk. Narrowing his range as I've done should make the case for reverse implied odds = warranting a fold.


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