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AmonRaa 11-22-2007 06:00 PM

3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
New at the table. New at nl50.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $79.25
SB: $67
BB: $44.75
UTG: $52.65
MP: $51.75
CO: $64.80

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50

Flop: ($9.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
MP checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.50</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $25</font>

Stack off time? Standard?

kroeliewoelie 11-22-2007 06:04 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
79 dollar stack and new at table?

3 bet pot?

Anyway, I stack off.

DawnToDusk 11-22-2007 06:04 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
With out any prior history or notes on the players this looks like just as good a spot as any. If he has 66 then just reload. If he has AA/KK (kind of unlikely as there is only one way to make each hand) then make a note that he isn't reraising them PF (until noted otherwise).

doppelganger 11-22-2007 06:10 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
He has more combos of AK/A6 or anything else you beat/split with than of AA/KK/66. Easy push imo.

Edit: Actually stove seems to disagree with me. Not sure how many other flush draws I should put in his range, but just including AQ and AJ he's pretty far ahead here.

Board: Ah 6d Kd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.949% 17.13% 17.81% 1866 1940.00 { AsKc }
Hand 1: 65.051% 47.24% 17.81% 5144 1940.00 { KK+, 66, AKs, AdQd, AdJd, AKo }

Nick Royale 11-22-2007 06:17 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
Easy shove.

Nick Royale 11-22-2007 06:17 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
[ QUOTE ]
He has more combos of AK/A6 or anything else you beat/split with than of AA/KK/66. Easy push imo.

Edit: Actually stove seems to disagree with me. Not sure how many other flush draws I should put in his range, but just including AQ and AJ he's pretty far ahead here.

Board: Ah 6d Kd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.949% 17.13% 17.81% 1866 1940.00 { AsKc }
Hand 1: 65.051% 47.24% 17.81% 5144 1940.00 { KK+, 66, AKs, AdQd, AdJd, AKo }


[/ QUOTE ]
Why KK+?

doppelganger 11-22-2007 06:18 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
Unknown donk getting stupid w/ a monster PF? I dunno, just figured it was possible. AA/KK comprise only 2 combos in the whole range though, so they're not weighted very heavily.

doppelganger 11-22-2007 06:21 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
Of course, removing them and stoving again puts our equity up to 42%. Easy shove! Lol StoveRangeaments.

I think I'll just lurk until sober. Happy Turkey day my american compadres.

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Nick Royale 11-22-2007 06:21 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
[ QUOTE ]
Unknown donk getting stupid w/ a monster PF? I dunno, just figured it was possible. AA/KK comprise only 2 combos in the whole range though, so they're not weighted very heavily.

[/ QUOTE ]
They're weighted 100%, meaning you think he'll play KK+ this way 100%. I would discount them and add a few more FDs.

doppelganger 11-22-2007 06:27 PM

Re: 3 bet pot, floped top 2
 
How do we discount them in stove? Run both ways and do a weighted average? (Maybe 5% including and 95% excluding?)

Adding a few more FD's and doing a weighted average gives us equity around 46% so playing for stacks is clearly fine.

Nick: Please post in uNL more. Good stuff.


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