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Profish2285 10-30-2007 07:37 PM

top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn
 


UTG runs at 25/0/0.25 - 20
SB runs at 18/10.8/1.29 - 120


Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $24.40
CO: $26.85
BTN: $27.35
SB: $26.55
Hero (BB): $51.60
UTG: $25.55

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG calls $1, MP folds, SB calls $1

Turn: ($4) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $13</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $25.30 and is All-In</font>, Hero....

Schiester 10-30-2007 07:44 PM

Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn
 
Two pair so seldom good here against two players going over the top of your bet imo.

ironlion69 10-30-2007 07:46 PM

Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn
 
hmmm....I think this looks like a fold to me. What would they be pushing here? A higher ace doesn't really make sense. I think a lot of times here your going to see a set or a straight. You don't really beat their range here because they are both telling you that the seven really helped them and I'm guessing it helped them more then it helped you.

doppelganger 10-30-2007 08:17 PM

Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn
 
I guess it's a fold. Flop was fairly dry so someone could've been slowplaying a set, and I guess SB could complete PF w/ 58 if he was in a mood. The only hands you're beating that might play this way would be a super aggressive A5 or a flush draw and they have plenty of equity against you. (And are unlikely, and it's extremely unlikely that both of them have hands you beat.)

Shattered 10-30-2007 08:23 PM

Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn
 
I fourth the fold. Villains are the opposite of aggro, they both check/called to the turn, and there's two of them. I'd call this HU but I wouldn't be all that happy about it.

Schiester 10-30-2007 08:29 PM

Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn
 
The worst hand I call with here is bottom set and I'm not expecting to be ahead all that often even with that.

Profish2285 10-30-2007 08:31 PM

Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn
 
I ended up folding but wanted to make sure that is the consensus. Luckily it is the overwhelming consensus.

Shattered 10-30-2007 08:37 PM

Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn
 
I've never once advocated folding bottom set before, but if there was a spot to do it this is it. You're in a limped pot with two villains that both check/called flop and went crazy on the turn. You see one higher set or a straight probably more often than both villains having aces up.
(That said, I still probably call with a set of 4s here and then go whine, er, ask about it here)


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