AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

This got messy. Original raiser was about 22/16. SB was about 30/19 and seemed donkish. Ive seen him raise pre and call 3b preflop w k6s. Dont know anything about his reraising range.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $666.85
Hero (BB): $199.50
UTG: $219.25
CO: $201.30
BTN: $84.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $26.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $70.00</font>, UTG folds, SB calls $44.00

Flop: ($148) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red"> Hero checks ?

Comments on preflop too please...

Re: AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

Make preflop larger, maybe even a shove. As played i c/f.

Re: AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

I don't like shoving pf as your usually only getting looked up by QQ+. I don't mind the pf bet if you are prepared to fold to an allin. On the otherhand if you are committed to getting it in pre then make it larger. That's a horrible flop so check/folding is the way to go and be happy you saved yourself some money by not going ai pf.

Re: AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

no. if villain flips over KK hero is priced into calling. once you 4bet to 70 you cant fold. oop i just 4bet shove

Re: AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

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no. if villain flips over KK hero is priced into calling. once you 4bet to 70 you cant fold. oop i just 4bet shove

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So if you four bet any Ax suited would you have odds to call also? What would be more profitable long term... calling the ai 4bet, as you would have odds to call or folding to a 4bet? Folding obviously has the advantage of lower variance. Personally I raise to around 70 like this but I will fold to an ai as i am usually shown AA/KK.

Re: AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

I agree with Silent that if you're going to 4 bet this hand that you should just shove it. Does anyone here like just a call, or even a fold?

Re: AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

at 200nl i treat AK like the nuts. maybe its a leak. at 100nl i dont mind folding readless to a raise,3bet. with villains with these kind of aggro stats im generally not ever folding coz their 3betting ranges are pretty wide. if i 3bet Ax im calling a push aswell yes. And i hate a call when OOP for the rest of the hand.

Re: AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

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This got messy. Original raiser was about 22/16. SB was about 30/19 and seemed donkish. Ive seen him raise pre and call 3b preflop w k6s. Dont know anything about his reraising range.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $666.85
Hero (BB): $199.50
UTG: $219.25
CO: $201.30
BTN: $84.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $26.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $70.00</font>, UTG folds, SB calls $44.00

Flop: ($148) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red"> Hero checks ?

Comments on preflop too please...

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shove preflop/fold.

Re: AKs vs preflop raise and 3bet 200 NL
 

I cold call, then only continue on a flop w/ A, K, or 2+ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. If Orig raiser re-raises pre after my cold-call, I fold