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MikeyPatriot 11-29-2007 06:21 PM

Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
El D locked the old thread due to its unwieldy length. Relevant topics from the old thread:

Roger Huerta's style and getting through Clay Guida

GSP subbing for Matt Serra

Cung Le being demolished by Frank Shamrock

El Diablo 11-29-2007 06:53 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
Mikey,

Cung Le should at least get bonus points for having a name that reminds me of Chong Li.

Thoughts on Ultimate Fighter yesterday? Tommy looked impressively strong and definitely has tons of heart, but it also looks to me like he'd get submitted pretty easily by someone with top-level submission skills. Agree?

Decently entertaining episode last night.

slickpoppa 11-29-2007 11:55 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
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El D locked the old thread due to its unwieldy length. Relevant topics from the old thread:

Roger Huerta's style and getting through Clay Guida

GSP subbing for Matt Serra

Cung Le being demolished by Frank Shamrock

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I think Cung would have a decent chance if he could keep the fight standing, and he's shown some good takedown defense so far.

steel108 11-30-2007 12:32 AM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
Im shocked the fight wasn't over when Tommy got put in the arm bar.... very impressed that he got out.

MikeyPatriot 11-30-2007 02:05 AM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
Yeah, Tommy's ability to escape the armbar and triangle was impressive. I still don't think him or Matt have the same experience and ability as Mac or George. Speaking of, LOL @ "the best matchup" being Mac/Matt and George/Tommy. They're clearly angling for a Mac/George final.

I'm glad the TUF season's almost over. The only thing I want to see at this point is George/Mac, and I have little reason to believe that won't be the matchup in the finale.

Cung doesn't have enough KO power to win on the feet against Shamrock, and there's little chance he could effectively keep the fight there. Frank is just too good and too experienced as a well-rounded fighter. I like Cung, and it'll be interesting how he can evolve, but right now, Frank's just too much for him.

El Diablo 11-30-2007 04:25 AM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
MP,

"I have little reason to believe that won't be the matchup in the finale."

They made it look like one of the guys can't fight for some reason, likely a training injury I'd imagine. So I guess there's a greater than expected chance that it's a different final.

MikeyPatriot 11-30-2007 01:05 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
El D,

The most likely injury is Tommy's ridiculous cut. Would make sense that it opens back up during training at some point. Not gonna rule out something else though.

I've been reading Mac's blog every week, and I'm fairly certain he's getting to the finals judging by what and how he writes.

El Diablo 11-30-2007 05:25 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
MP,

That was my most obvious guess as well. I was actually kinda looking forward to seeing Tommy fight George with a gameplan of just plain overpowering him. George definitely didn't look super impressive in his last fight and I think it would have been an interesting matchup.

I think there's a good possibility it's someone else, just because the Tommy cut is such an obvious one.

jackflashdrive 11-30-2007 06:03 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
I always misread these thread titles as 'official EDF MDMA' thread and get really excited. Then I realize it is about karate and I can't contribute. Except this.

Brocktoon 11-30-2007 10:58 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
WRT the impending injury on the next TUF episode, couldn't it also easily be Tommy's left arm?

Yes, he got out of armbar, but it looked just about fully sunk and there is a good chance that he popped something in there and was able to fight through it due to adrenaline.

Who's to say he doesn't wake up the next morning unable to bend his arm?

I hope its not Mac or George fwiw, if I had to pick I'd make it Matt since he's the least interesting of the 4 left. On the same note, I'm getting a little tired of prefight injuries so often being a factor and preventing fights altogether.

Maybe I'm just ignorant but can't these guys just tone it the [censored] down a notch in training if there's any significant chance of an injury that wouldn't allow them to fight? Its very frustrating as a fan.

mephisto 11-30-2007 11:05 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
Btw, if you guys check out the latest commercials on spike, it looks like Jrock is replacing whoever is injured.

MikeyPatriot 11-30-2007 11:18 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
Good call on Tommy's arm. I hadn't even considered that. I think J-Rock's the pretty obvious choice to replace the injured fighter, whoever it is.

Phildo 12-01-2007 02:52 AM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
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Cung doesn't have enough KO power to win on the feet against Shamrock, and there's little chance he could effectively keep the fight there. Frank is just too good and too experienced as a well-rounded fighter. I like Cung, and it'll be interesting how he can evolve, but right now, Frank's just too much for him.

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Frank's wrestling has never impressed me and Cung Le has very good stand up grappling. I would bet on Frank mostly because Le is super over rated (and I'm still a huge Frank fanboy despite the fact that he's a gigantic douche) but I think he could struggle to take Le down.

KDawg 12-01-2007 12:17 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
good call on the arm. Ben also wrenched tommy's arm pretty badly too in that triangle


as far as getting injured in training, it happens. usually it's from innocous stuff or just being hit or moving in a slightly different way that results in injury

danvh 12-01-2007 01:48 PM

Re: Official EDF MMA Thread Vol. II
 
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Good call on Tommy's arm. I hadn't even considered that. I think J-Rock's the pretty obvious choice to replace the injured fighter, whoever it is.

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By the way. There are reports as to who is the replacement fighter. Obviously a spoiler but doesnt mention who he replaces..Link


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