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Keyser. 06-16-2007 05:40 PM

Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
Villain is overbet56, possibly one of you guys. It's been a while since we've played so I don't have a read. He's running 26/20/3.5 over 3k sample. I'm not sure how much of that is from heads-up.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.75/$1.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $109.00
BB: $299.25
Hero (UTG): $312.25
CO: $506.55
BTN: $297.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $5.25</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $5.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BTN calls $10.00

Turn: ($32.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $25.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $88.50</font>, Hero calls $63.50

River: ($209.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets all-in for $194.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $194.00 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $209.75 ($3 Rake)

He's definitely capable of bluff-raising the turn, and also value-raising worse hands. Is he shoving a set b/c he thinks I have AA-QQ? I'm lost on this one.

fees 06-16-2007 05:47 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
We'll he just turned a set into a bluff.. so either he has a jack or he's bluffing.. basically he has J10 or 88/77/33.. so what do you think about calling? I don't think theres enough information either way to make either decision clear, we get 2:1 on the river so I think that is a call.

Also board is heavy to the point where you can just repop the turn, and if he has J10, cooler

Keyser. 06-16-2007 05:49 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
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Also board is heavy to the point where you can just repop the turn, and if he has J10, cooler

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yeah, that was probably the biggest mistake

wrkingtobegreat 06-16-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
I would probably have pushed the turn, but as played I would have folded the river. I dont like going all in on boards where one card makes a straight.

Suwalski 06-16-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
I push turn... Since you call turn i dono what to do actually, really hard spot. Prolly fold as you did.

Bukem_ 06-16-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
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He's definitely capable of bluff-raising the turn, and also value-raising worse hands.

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He is capable of bluff raising with jk and calling a push with it. Not as capable of value raising with worse, though he could do this with 2pr. He pretty much never has a set though.

For the most part he is pretty straightforward post flop, and will mostly jt here. I still shove though cause he is horrible at getting away from hands if he does have worse.

Panthro 06-16-2007 06:34 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
I doubt he flats this flop w/ 88/33/98, although it's not entirely impossible. 79/87/77 and a slew of drawing hands are definite possibilities of worst hands he could be popping the turn with.

johnnyrocket 06-16-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
yea i push turn, as played super tough decision on river, his turn raise seems large for a straight IMO

Speedlimits 06-16-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
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Villain is overbet56, possibly one of you guys. It's been a while since we've played so I don't have a read. He's running 26/20/3.5 over 3k sample. I'm not sure how much of that is from heads-up.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.75/$1.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $109.00
BB: $299.25
Hero (UTG): $312.25
CO: $506.55
BTN: $297.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $5.25</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $5.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BTN calls $10.00

Turn: ($32.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $25.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $88.50</font>, Hero calls $63.50

River: ($209.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets all-in for $194.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $194.00 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $209.75 ($3 Rake)

He's definitely capable of bluff-raising the turn, and also value-raising worse hands. Is he shoving a set b/c he thinks I have AA-QQ? I'm lost on this one.

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push turn.

TehVader 06-16-2007 08:03 PM

Re: Set on scary board vs. tough player, deep
 
Tought spot since you didn't push turn, but I think I find a fold here. I don't think he bluffs river often enough to make a call profitable.


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