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Spurious 11-09-2007 02:55 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I would have folded the turn fwiw

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Why?
getting 3:1 on a 4:1 draw are pretty good odds, you just need to get another $ from villain to break/even, i think that's doable.

thac 11-09-2007 03:06 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Not when he has quads.

KCrow 11-09-2007 03:07 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Villain is 24/14/2.81

Is this pretty standard, or is it better to check behind on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $68.85
SB: $52.65
BB: $56.25
UTG: $60.60
MP: $48.25
CO: $22.70

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.50</font>, SB calls $6

Turn: ($21) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, SB.........

MrWooster 11-09-2007 03:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Not when he has quads.

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LOL - comment of the week - thanks thac

monkover 11-09-2007 03:24 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Villain is 24/14/2.81

Is this pretty standard, or is it better to check behind on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $68.85
SB: $52.65
BB: $56.25
UTG: $60.60
MP: $48.25
CO: $22.70

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.50</font>, SB calls $6

Turn: ($21) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, SB.........

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your mistake is on the flop

yellowbluebus 11-09-2007 03:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I am at work and dont have AIM at work [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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www.meebo.com FTW

Nemesis69 11-09-2007 03:38 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I am at work and dont have AIM at work [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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www.meebo.com FTW

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nh

Nemesis69 11-09-2007 03:42 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Ama, I was just reading the sticky out of boredom. U [censored] rickrolled me. Haven't you heard of the new rickroll? (princeroll ldo). Sticky should be updated.

PJo336 11-09-2007 03:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Ama, I was just reading the sticky out of boredom. U [censored] rickrolled me. Haven't you heard of the new rickroll? (princeroll ldo). Sticky should be updated.

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hahaa this occurred with me about 2 weeks ago, expert rickroll imo

PJo336 11-09-2007 03:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
mr pathetic, i gotta ask, was there any chat after u checked behind with the nut flush?

Mr_Pathetic 11-09-2007 03:50 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
nope and i was shocked. i thought he was going to berate me and i was going to get to say "its ok, i see your hole cards" or something caddy but he never said a word. just kept on playing.

KCrow 11-09-2007 03:52 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Villain is 24/14/2.81

Is this pretty standard, or is it better to check behind on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $68.85
SB: $52.65
BB: $56.25
UTG: $60.60
MP: $48.25
CO: $22.70

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.50</font>, SB calls $6

Turn: ($21) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, SB.........

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your mistake is on the flop

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Not raising enough? What would you bet?

icheckcallu 11-09-2007 03:57 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Villain is 24/14/2.81

Is this pretty standard, or is it better to check behind on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $68.85
SB: $52.65
BB: $56.25
UTG: $60.60
MP: $48.25
CO: $22.70

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.50</font>, SB calls $6

Turn: ($21) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, SB.........

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your mistake is on the flop

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Not raising enough? What would you bet?

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no... just call

kroeliewoelie 11-09-2007 04:07 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I am not running well today, lots of coolers and bad beats. So I play half an hour of 10NL with the following guidelines:

1) raise ATC from the button if not raised.
2) raise a lot from CO (if button will fold enough)
3) play normal in other positions
4) second barrel if remotely sensible
5) bluff wet flops a lot
6) valueshove sometimes
7) cbet in multiway pots unless a compelling reason not to do so presents itself
8) make sure I am the aggressor, do not call shoves light, BUT shove light myself.

The results:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1...9ftwyb9.th.jpg

I am seriously doubting whether ABC TAG is the most profitable style. But of course I run hot in this sample 71% W$SD is insane high.

thac 11-09-2007 04:13 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Sick brag imo: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12882179

Micro Donk 11-09-2007 04:16 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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the tabless....im too big for them, and my back....it hurtsssssssss

right now im lying in bed just hurting

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im 6'5 (1.9558m) with an unspecified amount of weight, and when i go to play live its typically 10 hr/day nonstop sessions for a week straight, doesnt hurt me too much? but im probably younger so it wouldnt do that

must be some rough tables where ever u went?

derosnec 11-09-2007 04:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i've been in detroit for 3 days for business. i'm scared and want to come home.

fozzy71 11-09-2007 04:30 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i've been in detroit for 3 days for business. i'm scared and want to come home.

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Awwwwwww - It aint that bad. It is WAY better than it used to be.

Although, I only went to the city on rare occasions (casino [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) and lived pretty close by. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

yellowbluebus 11-09-2007 04:35 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Sick brag imo: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12882179

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Solid!

Kimo White Devil 11-09-2007 04:42 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Sick brag imo: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12882179

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NH THAC. Damn very nice run.

Maunzekater 11-09-2007 05:02 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Just hit my first straight flush in my poker career.
I hope i don't have to wait another 235k hands for the next one.

thing85 11-09-2007 05:06 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
thac,

You say in that thread that your coach got you to steal more and loosen up a bit, but when compared to your older stats, it looks like you're more of a nit. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

thing85 11-09-2007 05:08 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Just hit my first straight flush in my poker career.
I hope i don't have to wait another 235k hands for the next one.

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Lifetime I am down money with straight flushes.

bravos1 11-09-2007 05:13 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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thac,

You say in that thread that your coach got you to steal more and loosen up a bit, but when compared to your older stats, it looks like you're more of a nit. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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May be positional and not an accumulative aspect

thing85 11-09-2007 05:24 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Very true...I guess I would need to see the stats by position.

C4LL4W4Y 11-09-2007 05:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
if one of you is 'ayrien', go die in a grease fire please.

doppelganger 11-09-2007 05:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Just hit my first straight flush in my poker career.
I hope i don't have to wait another 235k hands for the next one.

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Lifetime I am down money with straight flushes.

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Don't draw to the idiot end of straight flushes, imo, ldo.

GSykes 11-09-2007 05:28 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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thac,

You say in that thread that your coach got you to steal more and loosen up a bit, but when compared to your older stats, it looks like you're more of a nit. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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42 &gt; previous

GSykes 11-09-2007 05:32 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I really need to play more.

Phildo 11-09-2007 05:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Sick brag imo: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12882179

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VVN

I'm $100 and the rest of my bonus clearing away from being rolled for 100nl but I can't decide if I want to get coaching or just go ahead and move up (strangely enough, I was planning on asking carrotsnake for coaching). I'm running at ~5PTBB/100 over 15K hands and I feel I could do a lot better at this level.

wingchunflush 11-09-2007 05:49 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I just went to aol and found a web version of the messenger the meebo is pretty cool though

wingchunflush 11-09-2007 05:51 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I want to get some coaching as well. I had talked with ssdex about some coaching but he is hard to get ahold of. My thing is with my $600 bank roll one coaching session from alot of those guys is like over 25% of my roll. I think alot of those guys dont give a crap about you. I would rather find someone who had a genuine interest in my development.

ama0330 11-09-2007 05:55 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Ama, I was just reading the sticky out of boredom. U [censored] rickrolled me. Haven't you heard of the new rickroll? (princeroll ldo). Sticky should be updated.

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poned [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

thing85 11-09-2007 05:59 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Just hit my first straight flush in my poker career.
I hope i don't have to wait another 235k hands for the next one.

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Lifetime I am down money with straight flushes.

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Don't draw to the idiot end of straight flushes, imo, ldo.

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If I have 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on a 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] board and villain shoves, I am never folding. There's no way you can give him exactly T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] when he could easily have other flushes and hands that I beat.

doppelganger 11-09-2007 06:02 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Just hit my first straight flush in my poker career.
I hope i don't have to wait another 235k hands for the next one.

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Lifetime I am down money with straight flushes.

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Don't draw to the idiot end of straight flushes, imo, ldo.

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If I have 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on a 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] board and villain shoves, I am never folding. There's no way you can give him exactly T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] when he could easily have other flushes and hands that I beat.

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[x] Fix sarcasm meter [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

thing85 11-09-2007 06:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Sorry man, I'm out of it today. I'm 3.5k hands into a 6k-hand "challenge" for today, so my mind is a bit fried.

Mr_Pathetic 11-09-2007 06:06 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I think alot of those guys dont give a crap about you. I would rather find someone who had a genuine interest in my development.

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this was my feeling as well when I was offered a coaching and staking deal. but you must remember they're in it for the money first and to see someone develop through passing on their knowledge second.

hennnerz 11-09-2007 06:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Thac - Good job. Makes me realise how bad BR management paired with multiple withdrawals results has slown my progress as a player, despite playing 350k hands lifetime for a decent rate.

wingchunflush 11-09-2007 06:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I think if someone is doing a coaching and staking deal then they are alot more invested in your success, but some of these guys are charging 150-200 an hour and I mean come on. I would like someone who is confident enough to coach me now keep in contact and once I get to an agreed upon br I pay them for them, kind of a put your money where your mouth is approach

doppelganger 11-09-2007 06:12 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
No worries. How many tables are you playing? You could 8 table 6000 hands in about 7.5 hours. I've done it a few times but it's pretty mentally brutal.

Make sure you take a solid 15 minute break every 1000 - 1500 hands or so.

Also, I have found myself at the end of a few of these sessions just completely glassy-eyed and clicking buttons without even realizing what my cards were. It's a great way to lose a lot of money. Be careful and be honest with yourself when it feels like it's time to take an hour or two away from the screen. Your last 2000 hands will be much more profitable, I guarantee it.


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