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cgrohman 08-22-2007 02:40 PM

I Flopped A Full-House
 
Donkey Limps UTG, bag lag with some common sense iso-raises in MP (range A9s+, KJ etc), I cold call with 77, 2 others call, 5 to the flop

Flop: 555

Checked to MP who bets, I raise, Donkey calls 2 cold, MP calls

Turn: 10

Checked to me, I bet, donkey calls, MP folds

River: Q

Donkey checks, and I . . .

Meh?

Munchkin Mayor 08-22-2007 02:45 PM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
Bet. Donkey has Ace high and will pay you off.

smurfitup 08-22-2007 02:49 PM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
really depends on how much of a donkey he is. if we only include pocket pairs in his range, then you beat 22-66 (obv 55 is impossible) and you lose to 88 and 99 (let's figure he'd raise preflop with the other pps and that he'd c-r the turn w/ tt). if all the pps are equally likely, then this is an easy bet. throw in some random Ax garbage in there (again, depends on just how much of a donkey he is... would he call 2 cold here w/ ace high?) then you have to worry about AT and AQ, but i think, given all these possibilities, you'll win more than 50% of the time when you bet. so.. bet!

n.s. 08-22-2007 03:54 PM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
I say bet - let the donkey do what donkeys do best.

bigjoet 08-22-2007 08:19 PM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
3 bet pre flop...

cowboy billy 08-22-2007 10:14 PM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
as played, DON'T bet, you're NOT getting called by anything you beat except for smaller ppairs, no way in hell that this donk is calling you with ace high

also, if I play this hand, it's for a raise and not a cc

Hass 08-23-2007 01:25 AM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
I 3-bet PF, especially because you said you thought it was and iso-raise.

I check behind on the river, although I think it is close. AK and AJ are the only hands you really beat, maybe 22-66 like above poster said. I think it is a long shot that the A high hands are calling, unless you have a read otherwise.

HOWMANY 08-23-2007 04:45 AM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
A fish would either donk or c/r a T on the turn and they would donk a Q on the river.

Fish has 22-88 or maybe 99 or one of a zillion random hands he called 2 cold with and could possibly convince himself that you are somehow bluffing, checking here is so bad.

ackid 08-23-2007 10:46 AM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
Bet. You get payed from all lower pp's and possibly a naked ace.

Hamlet 08-23-2007 03:34 PM

Re: I Flopped A Full-House
 
Seems like no one thinks that the Donkey could have the case 5 after the cold-call on the flop?

I would think a lot of the small pairs in the Donkey's range would have been bet out by him on the flop. After the flop action, he might be passive with the 10.

This feels pretty thin for a value bet. I assume everyone is advocating folding to a raise?


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