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gonebroke2 11-28-2007 12:28 AM

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My solution to the Israel-Arab peace process?
1. Israel invades Gaza and Arab controlled areas of the West Bank and annexes the land.
2. Take away the citizenship of all Arabs inside Israel.
3. Relocate all Arabs inside Israel and dump them on the borders of Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon. Let their Arab brothers give them sanctuary.
4. Drink a beer for a job well done... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
5. Endure the occasional rocket attacks accross the borders but launch occasional cross border attacks to kill these scum.

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Don't mind Felix, he is a confused individual. He's a 40-something, hick, ex-military, from the midwest who was brainwashed into become a zionist. Go join the IDF Felix, maybe one of the arabs will take you to heaven with them.

vulturesrow 11-28-2007 01:36 AM

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My solution to the Israel-Arab peace process?
1. Israel invades Gaza and Arab controlled areas of the West Bank and annexes the land.
2. Take away the citizenship of all Arabs inside Israel.
3. Relocate all Arabs inside Israel and dump them on the borders of Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon. Let their Arab brothers give them sanctuary.
4. Drink a beer for a job well done... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
5. Endure the occasional rocket attacks accross the borders but launch occasional cross border attacks to kill these scum.

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Don't mind Felix, he is a confused individual. He's a 40-something, hick, ex-military, from the midwest who was brainwashed into become a zionist. Go join the IDF Felix, maybe one of the arabs will take you to heaven with them.

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I dont agree with much of what Felix wrote but your post is complete noise and I cant believe it didnt get axed.

andyfox 11-28-2007 02:06 AM

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The Arabs are lying sacks of crap.

Relocate all Arabs inside Israel and dump them

don't worry too much about who dies the arabs don't understand much else.


It is precisely such attitudes--on both sides--that has led to the present mess.

SNOWBALL 11-28-2007 03:06 AM

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InTheDark, please name one historical example where an outside power imposed a long lasting peace by indiscrimately slaughtering the civilians of a country they occupy.

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we're living in it

theblitz 11-28-2007 03:18 AM

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Israel and Egypt in fact have full diplomatic relations and exchange of ambassadors

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This is true up to a point.

The Egyptians do have an ambassador in Israel but he is "recalled for consultation" more often than he is in Israel.

It is also true that Mubarak NEVER visits Israel. I am not 100% sure but I think he has actually never been here.

SNOWBALL 11-28-2007 03:24 AM

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Honestly, I find Felix's posts on Israel more refreshing than anything else. He's like a humorless version of Borat that goes seemingly too far, and yet others are still willing to follow him, and it quickly becomes clear that the shy and dishonest Zionists who once spoke of "peace" and "even handedness" are cheering him on, and crying for blood.
The secret to a successful demagogue is bringing hatred onto the surface of things, not in creating new hatred.

Sadly for you Felix, people like you will always lose in the long run. You're bound to. It's an absolute matter of survival for the jews that you lose. That's why the former head of Shin Bet and an ardent Zionest Ami Ayalon, who doesn't care at all for palestinian rights, calls for a complete unilateral withdrawal from all palestinian land: because the only other option is an expansive vortex of murder.

theblitz 11-28-2007 03:31 AM

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I, in fact, feel that the only honest side here are the Palestinians. The only interest they have is to set up a state in order to have a base from which to further attack Israel as they do from Gaza. They do not hide this fact.

All other parties are there for personal reasons:

1. Olmert is hoping to use the "Peace Process" in order to deflect attention from the bribery etc. scandals he is involved in. When an ex-member of the High Court says that they intentionally went easy on Sharron because "his political actions at the time were important to Israel" then I think Olmert has a good chance of this helping.

2. Rice is there to try and make up for all the rubbish she has done in her job. She is generally recognised as the worst Secretary of State ever.

3. Bush is there in order to try and salvage something from his tenure. HE totally screwed up in Iraq (a war I actually supported). This is his last chance to earn his Nobel Peace Prize.

theblitz 11-28-2007 03:35 AM

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a complete unilateral withdrawal from all palestinian land: because the only other option is an expansive vortex of murder.

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and unilateral withdraw in the past has proved to be the correct path to peace. That is assuming you ignore Oslo, Gaza and Lebanon which don't count.
Oops, small problem here. Those are the ONLY examples and they have proved to be great haven't they.

SNOWBALL 11-28-2007 03:38 AM

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I, in fact, feel that the only honest side here are the Palestinians. The only interest they have is to set up a state in order to have a base from which to further attack Israel as they do from Gaza. They do not hide this fact.

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what the [censored] are you talking about? The palestinians have recognized israel's right to exist for almost 20 years. In the 80s, there were hardly any terrorist attacks inside israel. Most guerilla violence was against IDF soldiers inside palestinian land.

The average palestinian isn't some demonic hate filled freak. These are human beings. They want a life worth living. This means they want their own land and they want freedom. A lot of people don't realize this, but palestinians are among the most liberal arabs in the world.
If you want to build democracy in the arab world, you can start by not giving billions of dollars a year to Israel which they use to turn around and smash palestinian independence.

owsley 11-28-2007 03:41 AM

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It's just funny (and also painful in big picture way) to realize that if Felix had been born under an entirely different set of circumstances but had the same intolerant and violent beliefs he would be out in the streets with an AK 47 burning american flags and trying to see if he couldn't kill himself a settler. The people on each side who fight in and perpetuate conflicts like this and in Northern Ireland are very similar at the end of the day, they just had the direct opposite set of biases instilled in them due to chance. The more directly opposite the biases are, they more they want to make up reasons to kill each other. If Felix died tomorrow and got reincarnated as a Palestinian in the Gaza strip just think of all the crazy [censored] he would be able to justify with his "gunboat diplomacy."

Also, arguing with Felix is like the minor leagues of the politics forum. But somehow Snowball manages to bungle it with his goofy rhetoric.


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