Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

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there are a decent amount of big draws + villain would be less likely to raise a worse draw this deep

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I don't think many draws but the NFD can really be considered big. OESD + FD isn't really worth 200bbs here for villain. He is probably priced in to calling though, which isn't a good thing.

How likely villain is to raise various weakish draws like an OESD or bare medium/weak FD is pretty player dependent.

Also, our hand looks exactly like either top pair or a draw if we call, and villain probably expects us to fold a lot of our range to a turn bet. Of those big draws, a lot of them will commit on a blank turn where our equity is much greater. FWIW, I would likely fold to a big turn bet if the flush completes.

This is all assuming villain is a good solid tag who can read hands and situations well, of course.

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

i see what you're saying. i guess the answer is that it depends. There will be some boards where i'll be more inclined to call with a set, and some boards where i'll be more inclined to 3b. This board is the latter, but i can def see calling. I don't think there is a default play here and one might not necessarily be better then the other.

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

1. who is villain?

2. if hes aggro just call, if he is super aggro or only has one bullet and isnt that aggro 3bet small

...fwiw just calling is prolly my standard move here

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

3betting is obviously the "standard" play, but I do think calling in this spot will pay off more in the long run than 3betting. By calling our hand is very disguised. If I'm villain I am double barrelling like my entire range if he calls the flop and the turn doesn't change much, it's a great play too because people play like vags deep and will muck their overpairs/tptk because one pair isn't worth 200bbs!

Also, on the slim chance we're behind seeing a turn can only help us.

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

I think you gotta call, but his preflop ranges and tendencies really matter on how you are going to precede. There are a ton of different postflop styles and handranges that fall under tag. If he's really tight I would consider a muck. If he goes crazy with draws, I think you call and get it in on blank turn or go allin now.

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

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I think you gotta call, but his preflop ranges and tendencies really matter on how you are going to precede. There are a ton of different postflop styles and handranges that fall under tag. If he's really tight I would consider a muck. If he goes crazy with draws, I think you call and get it in on blank turn or go allin now.

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nooooooooooo to the fold and i have folded em before

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

don't fold too many draws and [censored] (obv)


also, converter is deuced... you are UTG, BB and somewhere else

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

I like calling and betting or raising any turn card if opp is very aggressive (and in particular fires a lot of 2nd barrels). If OP is more passive, but still liberal, then I just 3-bet here.

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

call the flop unless he is sort of spewy, in which case 3 bet. Felt most turns. What are people doing when a heart peels off, and he bets $250?

Re: Bottom set flop action deep 400nl
 

edit: don't know