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Benyamine VS Ivey 2k4k Horse
Its on. both started with 100k. |
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owowoowowo
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HH plz for those of us at work.
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ETA for 1Arm/2Arm on Full Tilt?
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Is it wrong to say Phil is a little more than the slight favorite here?
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benyamine getting rinsed by freedom25 in lhe
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god, they are playing so fast and loose my brain can't take it.
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wow, that was fast.
Full Tilt Poker Game #3826697948: Table Ivey Glue Factory - $2000/$4000 - Limit Hold'em - 20:39:46 ET - 2007/10/11 Seat 1: Phil Ivey ($198,570.85) Seat 2: David Benyamine ($101,375.15) Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $1,000 David Benyamine posts the big blind of $2,000 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Phil Ivey raises to $4,000 David Benyamine raises to $6,000 Phil Ivey calls $2,000 *** FLOP *** [2h 6c Qc] David Benyamine bets $2,000 Phil Ivey calls $2,000 *** TURN *** [2h 6c Qc] [9d] David Benyamine bets $4,000 Phil Ivey calls $4,000 *** RIVER *** [2h 6c Qc 9d] [Jh] David Benyamine checks Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** Phil Ivey shows [Js 8d] a pair of Jacks David Benyamine mucks Phil Ivey wins the pot ($31,999.50) with a pair of Jacks *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $32,000 | Rake $0.50 Board: [2h 6c Qc 9d Jh] Seat 1: Phil Ivey (small blind) collected ($31,999.50) Seat 2: David Benyamine (big blind) mucked DB rebought 100k before this hand. |
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Full Tilt Poker Game #3826658051: Table Ivey Glue Factory - $2000/$4000 Ante $300 - Limit Stud Hi - 20:35:37 ET - 2007/10/11
Seat 1: Phil Ivey ($125,874.10) Seat 2: David Benyamine ($74,075.40) David Benyamine antes $300 Phil Ivey antes $300 *** 3RD STREET *** Dealt to David Benyamine [5d] Dealt to Phil Ivey [7h] David Benyamine is low with [5d] David Benyamine brings in for $600 Phil Ivey completes it to $2,000 David Benyamine raises to $4,000 Phil Ivey calls $2,000 *** 4TH STREET *** Dealt to David Benyamine [5d] [9h] Dealt to Phil Ivey [7h] [6c] David Benyamine bets $2,000 Phil Ivey calls $2,000 *** 5TH STREET *** Dealt to David Benyamine [5d 9h] [4c] Dealt to Phil Ivey [7h 6c] [2c] David Benyamine bets $4,000 Phil Ivey raises to $8,000 David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** 6TH STREET *** Dealt to David Benyamine [5d 9h 4c] [5c] Dealt to Phil Ivey [7h 6c 2c] [Qd] David Benyamine bets $4,000 Phil Ivey calls $4,000 *** 7TH STREET *** David Benyamine bets $4,000 Phil Ivey calls $4,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** David Benyamine shows [Jc Td 5d 9h 4c 5c 8d] a pair of Fives Phil Ivey shows [Ac 8s 7h 6c 2c Qd 6d] a pair of Sixes Phil Ivey wins the pot ($44,599.50) with a pair of Sixes *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $44,600 | Rake $0.50 Seat 1: Phil Ivey showed [Ac 8s 7h 6c 2c Qd 6d] and won ($44,599.50) with a pair of Sixes Seat 2: David Benyamine showed [Jc Td 5d 9h 4c 5c 8d] and lost with a pair of Fives |
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benyamine must be down over $200k today
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this is how it started:
LarsLuzak: u not gonna play finddagrind at 500/1k? Phil Ivey: i rather play mix game Phil Ivey: i like it better Phil Ivey: when u quit i will play him LarsLuzak: ok Phil Ivey: plus i have to go in a hour anyway LarsLuzak: kinda silly that i cant play with him there Phil Ivey: they think its bad for the site for there to be that big of a game but its ok if i lose i guesss LarsLuzak: System: The $8,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) ($20+$2 NL Hold'em) will be starting in 4 minutes. LarsLuzak: wasnt there a 2/4k horse table? LarsLuzak: cant find it Phil Ivey: they just put it on here LarsLuzak: oh there it is LarsLuzak: oh beny there LarsLuzak: u should take his money Phil Ivey: wow peace play u later LarsLuzak: gl |
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How long did it take Phil to bust DB? I only watched from when phil was at like 130k, then down to 100k then busted DB.
In that span it only took him like 3 different games to bust him. |
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Is it wrong to say Phil is a little more than the slight favorite here? [/ QUOTE ] yes, it is wrong |
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LarsLuzak: oh beny there LarsLuzak: u should take his money Phil Ivey: wow peace play u later [/ QUOTE ] |
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please explain
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Full Tilt Poker Game #3828080482: Table Ivey Glue Factory - $2000/$4000 Ante $300 - Limit Stud Hi - 22:53:14 ET - 2007/10/11
Seat 1: Phil Ivey ($102,994.15) Seat 2: David Benyamine ($196,992.35) David Benyamine antes $300 Phil Ivey antes $300 *** 3RD STREET *** Dealt to Phil Ivey [Jh] Dealt to David Benyamine [Kh] Phil Ivey is low with [Jh] Phil Ivey brings in for $600 David Benyamine completes it to $2,000 Phil Ivey raises to $4,000 David Benyamine has 15 seconds left to act David Benyamine calls $2,000 *** 4TH STREET *** Dealt to Phil Ivey [Jh] [Ah] Dealt to David Benyamine [Kh] [8h] Phil Ivey bets $2,000 David Benyamine calls $2,000 *** 5TH STREET *** Dealt to Phil Ivey [Jh Ah] [9d] Dealt to David Benyamine [Kh 8h] [6c] Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** 6TH STREET *** Dealt to Phil Ivey [Jh Ah 9d] [7d] Dealt to David Benyamine [Kh 8h 6c] [4s] Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** 7TH STREET *** Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** Phil Ivey shows [Ac Qs Jh Ah 9d 7d 5s] a pair of Aces David Benyamine mucks Phil Ivey wins the pot ($36,599.50) with a pair of Aces *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $36,600 | Rake $0.50 Seat 1: Phil Ivey collected ($36,599.50) Seat 2: David Benyamine mucked Got to love the $0.50 Rake. |
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Cause David is a great horse player?
They're probably the two best mixed games players, I can't comment on Chip or Barry who are the other two immediately coming to mind, and I'm pretty sure that I heard Barry when I was listening to one of the wcoop broadcasts, say that Benyamine had the best A-game of them all. When not playing too many good players on too many tables in too many different games, was what I think he said. Also, I would be very suprised if he wasn't the biggest winner in the 1k2k Horse game while it's been running. |
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Full Tilt Poker Game #3828101558: Table Ivey Glue Factory - $2000/$4000 Ante $300 - Limit Stud Hi - 22:55:14 ET - 2007/10/11
Seat 1: Phil Ivey ($122,093.15) Seat 2: David Benyamine ($177,891.85) David Benyamine antes $300 Phil Ivey antes $300 *** 3RD STREET *** Dealt to Phil Ivey [8s] Dealt to David Benyamine [Ah] Phil Ivey is low with [8s] Phil Ivey brings in for $600 David Benyamine completes it to $2,000 Phil Ivey raises to $4,000 David Benyamine calls $2,000 *** 4TH STREET *** Dealt to Phil Ivey [8s] [3c] Dealt to David Benyamine [Ah] [3d] David Benyamine checks Phil Ivey bets $2,000 David Benyamine calls $2,000 *** 5TH STREET *** Dealt to Phil Ivey [8s 3c] [Tc] Dealt to David Benyamine [Ah 3d] [3h] David Benyamine checks Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine raises to $8,000 Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act Phil Ivey calls $4,000 *** 6TH STREET *** Dealt to Phil Ivey [8s 3c Tc] [9s] Dealt to David Benyamine [Ah 3d 3h] [5d] David Benyamine bets $4,000 Phil Ivey calls $4,000 *** 7TH STREET *** David Benyamine bets $4,000 Phil Ivey raises to $8,000 David Benyamine has 15 seconds left to act David Benyamine has requested TIME David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** Phil Ivey shows [8d 7h 8s 3c Tc 9s 6d] a straight, Ten high David Benyamine mucks Phil Ivey wins the pot ($52,599.50) with a straight, Ten high *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $52,600 | Rake $0.50 Seat 1: Phil Ivey collected ($52,599.50) Seat 2: David Benyamine mucked |
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Full Tilt Poker Game #3828171880: Table Ivey Glue Factory - $2000/$4000 - Limit Hold'em - 23:02:04 ET - 2007/10/11
Seat 1: Phil Ivey ($87,191.65) Seat 2: David Benyamine ($212,787.85) Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $1,000 David Benyamine posts the big blind of $2,000 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Phil Ivey raises to $4,000 David Benyamine calls $2,000 *** FLOP *** [Kd 5h 7d] David Benyamine checks Phil Ivey bets $2,000 David Benyamine raises to $4,000 Phil Ivey calls $2,000 *** TURN *** [Kd 5h 7d] [Qc] David Benyamine checks Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** RIVER *** [Kd 5h 7d Qc] [Jd] David Benyamine checks Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine has 15 seconds left to act David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** Phil Ivey shows [4s 6c] King Queen high David Benyamine shows [7c 6s] a pair of Sevens David Benyamine wins the pot ($31,999.50) with a pair of Sevens *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $32,000 | Rake $0.50 Board: [Kd 5h 7d Qc Jd] Seat 1: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [4s 6c] and lost with King Queen high Seat 2: David Benyamine (big blind) showed [7c 6s] and won ($31,999.50) with a pair of Sevens |
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benyamine seems to be doing much better this time around
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So at these sick games, think of how many more hands they play online, Ivey will be playing Benyamine in Horse. I almost can't see who else would sit.
PA, Luzak and maybe Sbrugby in NL. And Benyamine and PA in plo. Maybe Ziigmund. Not the easiest of schedules. No matter how great you are it can't be the ideal sitation playing only the best in what is their best games. He is definitely down a few hundred k so far. And that's not even long sessions. These games will break somebody. |
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Full Tilt Poker Game #3828332297: Table Ivey Glue Factory - $2000/$4000 - Limit Omaha H/L - 23:17:40 ET - 2007/10/11
Seat 1: Phil Ivey ($72,898) Seat 2: David Benyamine ($327,065.50) David Benyamine has 5 seconds left to act David Benyamine posts the small blind of $1,000 Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $2,000 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** David Benyamine calls $1,000 Phil Ivey raises to $4,000 David Benyamine calls $2,000 *** FLOP *** [6c Kh Jd] Phil Ivey bets $2,000 David Benyamine raises to $4,000 Phil Ivey raises to $6,000 David Benyamine raises to $8,000 Phil Ivey calls $2,000 *** TURN *** [6c Kh Jd] [6s] Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine calls $4,000 *** RIVER *** [6c Kh Jd 6s] [8s] Phil Ivey bets $4,000 David Benyamine raises to $8,000 Phil Ivey calls $4,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** David Benyamine shows [9d Jc Tc Jh] a full house, Jacks full of Sixes, for high Phil Ivey mucks David Benyamine wins the pot ($47,999.50) with a full house, Jacks full of Sixes *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $48,000 | Rake $0.50 Board: [6c Kh Jd 6s 8s] Seat 1: Phil Ivey (big blind) mucked Seat 2: David Benyamine (small blind) collected ($47,999.50) |
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Ivey just left, stuck 250k
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Ivey hit his loss fail-safe and bounced.
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come back ivey
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Ivey just left, stuck 250k [/ QUOTE ] I find this very impossible to believe. |
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It's true look at the HH.
100k max buy-in. Full Tilt Poker Game #3828332297: Table Ivey Glue Factory - $2000/$4000 - Limit Omaha H/L - 23:17:40 ET - 2007/10/11 Seat 1: Phil Ivey ($72,898) Seat 2: David Benyamine ($327,065.50) |
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351 was the final tally for DB.
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oh yeah
I should have been more specific. I just meant it finished with Db sitting with 351. I didn't watch from the start. |
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yes but benyamine has in no way as much stud game experience as phil which is what i will say is 2 (not including razz because there is not as great of a skill difference)games stud and stud 8 he is as good or better than phil at hold em and omaha but cmon phil is one of the top 5 stud players of probably all time no way is benyamine a favorite in those
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yes but benyamine has in no way as much stud game experience as phil which is what i will say is 2 (not including razz because there is not as great of a skill difference)games stud and stud 8 he is as good or better than phil at hold em and omaha but cmon phil is one of the top 5 stud players of probably all time no way is benyamine a favorite in those [/ QUOTE ] Benyamine>you in English. |
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I watch the whole thing while doing homework, I dont remember DB rebuying at any point. So Phil lost about 250k.
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Let me see what I can add here. Everytime I've checked out the high-limit HORSE tables when David was sitting, he has always done pretty well as far as I could see. I've seen him with up to 200k at the 1k/2k eight-max table, which is the most I've ever seen there. I'm not sure if there is a cap to how much someone can buy in for on that game, but nonetheless idk why in the world David would buy in for that amount, I didn't witness it, but I can't imagine he didn't win it. I would agree that I'd put Phil's stud skill over David's, but I saw him win a few large pots during the whole 2k/4k showdown, in stud hi, so who knows? On Barry's website where he rates certain players he has Phil's strength (iirc) as stud, and David's weakness as stud variations, so it's a strange pairing.
I've read that David has killed the big game though (at least at one point or another), where it's just about every game out there, afaik, which would be credit to his mixed games skill. I think it's HORSE games, then PLO, NLHE, and 2-7 lowball too, so one would have to think you can't be a one trick guy to succeed in that atmosphere. But with all of that said, I wonder, what game is it where the greatest advantage can be (theoretically) gained over a weaker opponent. I guess it all depends on the person's skill or lack thereof, not sure I'm wording the question correctly or not, but it's an interesting thought considering how someone above posted how there may be less chance for an edge in something like razz, for example. Not saying I agree or disagree, it's just a point that was made. Yeah, from his variety of results it seems clear that something like NLHE may very well be David's worse game, and considering that is all that comes on TV basically, you have to wonder what number of people have condemned poor NLHE players as bad poker players, even when they do exceptionally well in everything else. Edit: Oh yeah, sorry, I do have some minor info (that may be slightly inaccurate) to add to the whole showdown and the swings and all. David did in fact lose his original buy in of 100k to Phil starting off. He rebought in for another 100k, and was down to about 50k again to Phil's 250k at one point I distinctly recall. From there he managed to climb back to being stuck about 20k, where Phil had 120k and David had 180k. The game broke at that point and from there on I didn't catch anything. If the two continued with those stacks though it's incredible to think David was as low as 50k to 250k underdog, and managed to turn that into a huge 350k (ish) stack. |
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yes but benyamine has in no way as much stud game experience as phil which is what i will say is 2 (not including razz because there is not as great of a skill difference)games stud and stud 8 he is as good or better than phil at hold em and omaha but cmon phil is one of the top 5 stud players of probably all time no way is benyamine a favorite in those [/ QUOTE ] PI > DB in stud, stud8 DB > PI in Omaha, O8 dk about razz (how can you say there's not enough skill in razz for someone to make a difference?) |
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I just meant at the higher limits where almost everybody is a good razz player there aren't as many opportunities to make plays and is dependent more on luck than other forms of poker that theres a less total edge overall.
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I just meant at the higher limits where almost everybody is a good razz player there aren't as many opportunities to make plays and is dependent more on luck than other forms of poker that theres a less total edge overall. [/ QUOTE ] Please explain why razz has less skill than stud |
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[ QUOTE ] I just meant at the higher limits where almost everybody is a good razz player there aren't as many opportunities to make plays and is dependent more on luck than other forms of poker that theres a less total edge overall. [/ QUOTE ] Please explain why razz has less skill than stud [/ QUOTE ] Isn't this a statement of fact? Hellmuth says it in one of his books, so it must be true! |
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Please explain why razz has less skill than stud [/ QUOTE ] Cause everyone knows razz is just played by big s&m crybabies who enjoy bad beats in slow motion? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I just meant at the higher limits where almost everybody is a good razz player there aren't as many opportunities to make plays and is dependent more on luck than other forms of poker that theres a less total edge overall. [/ QUOTE ] Please explain why razz has less skill than stud [/ QUOTE ] Isn't this a statement of fact? Hellmuth says it in one of his books, so it must be true! [/ QUOTE ] PH playing a non flop game? lol that must be funny |
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