NL600 99 vs river bluff?
 

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $636.00
Hero (BB): $605.00
UTG: $581.00
MP: $787.85
CO: $689.00
BTN: $680.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $6.00, CO calls $6.00, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $30.00, MP folds, CO calls $30.00

Flop: ($117) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($117) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $72.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $72.00

River: ($261) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $168.00</font>, [i]Hero ?

villian is 17/13 I probably shoulda just 3 bet pre but given that I didn't am I looking at a river bluff here enough to call?

Re: NL600 99 vs river bluff?
 

I dunno, looks like a value-bet and Axdd got there, I feel like I see more bluffs when Villain bets full pot, I think folding is ok.

Re: NL600 99 vs river bluff?
 

1.You can't call river
2. The hand looks real weird from his side.

What does he have? AT
Will he ever call Ax on turn 3 way, probably not.
Slowplayed set? Not likely but could be, too drawwy flop.

It doesn't make sense but you cannot call anyway.

Re: NL600 99 vs river bluff?
 

i was about to post almost the same hand with the same valueish looking betsize on ace river.
if villain can lay down a hand would a crai be pretty sexy? can he ever have a hand here he can call with except maybe AT?

Re: NL600 99 vs river bluff?
 

I don't think Axdd is a big part of his range, he almost always cbets the flop with this.

Meh, I think there are enough busted draws there to call this.

Re: NL600 99 vs river bluff?
 

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i was about to post almost the same hand with the same valueish looking betsize on ace river.
if villain can lay down a hand would a crai be pretty sexy? can he ever have a hand here he can call with except maybe AT?

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what calls on the turn and valuebets the river that is worse than 2p? If he's at all capable of vb'ing Tx here, then easy fold, but this looks like a pretty muggy situation where he typically has a very polarized range.

Re: NL600 99 vs river bluff?
 

i think villain can vbet KT or QT here given hero's line
i'd also be very worried about AT
i'd probably fold, b/c i can't put him on a busted draw (besides J9..yeah)

It's a closer decision if u think he checks behind the flop w/77 55, or 76 65 etc then turns his hand into a bluff on the river, but after two ppl limp and he raises, given that he's 17/13 its hard to put him on SCs, so that leaves 77 and 55 as the only possibilities you're beating here really...and a lot of ppl would limp those hands in this situation anyway.

i'd say he mostly likely has AT or KT