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avrilium 11-28-2007 06:14 AM

$2.25 FTP - TT at 50/100 with 2k, small stack shoves and flat called
 
Posting for a friend. Is a raise preflop standard? And as played, do you shove?
Thanks

Full Tilt Poker, $2 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 50/100 Blinds, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): 1,980
SB: 645
BB: 2,560
UTG: 3,975
MP: 3,390
CO: 950

Pre-Flop: (150) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls 100, CO folds, Hero calls 100, <font color="red">SB raises to 645 and is All-In</font>, BB folds, MP calls 545, Hero??

taipan168 11-28-2007 08:47 AM

Re: $2.25 FTP - TT at 50/100 with 2k, small stack shoves and flat call
 
I would make it 400 to go preflop after the limper. As played, I definitely shove over. Hero still has FE here and if not, MP probably has something stupid like Ax sooted or QJo.

TruFloridaGator 11-28-2007 10:03 AM

Re: $2.25 FTP - TT at 50/100 with 2k, small stack shoves and flat call
 
Limping isn't horrible, but I prefer raising as well, to 380ish or so.

Once MP calls, it's an easy shove. This is a 2.25, MP could have like the top 30% or even worse.

rockstar626 11-28-2007 10:38 AM

Re: $2.25 FTP - TT at 50/100 with 2k, small stack shoves and flat call
 
Im coming in raising here and make it 400. As for AI move by shortie(SB),this may push MP out with a raiser and AI out there, but then again this is a 2.25. I play these all the time and see some of the weirdest things.

If MP decides to come along anyway, let's make him pay 13 BB now with a shove, which is about 1/2 his stack to come along. Probably a coin flip at this point, but more than likely hero is ahead.

Another thing.... the limp could signal a hand villain would like to see a cheap flop, with, so I really like the AI here, villain has plenty of chips and would likely be raising higher PP here, unless villain is super tricky. He more than likely has a weak PP or qj,kj,etc....

Remember, a flat call to AI is a good sign of weakness, I would rather isolate SB with AI push myself to push you out.The flat call just seems weak to me.

TruFloridaGator 11-28-2007 10:56 AM

Re: $2.25 FTP - TT at 50/100 with 2k, small stack shoves and flat call
 
Coinflip? We're crushing MP's range.

sence25 11-28-2007 10:57 AM

Re: $2.25 FTP - TT at 50/100 with 2k, small stack shoves and flat call
 
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Coinflip? We're crushing MP's range.

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Agreed.
Take those dead chips.

Daleroxxu 11-28-2007 11:12 AM

Re: $2.25 FTP - TT at 50/100 with 2k, small stack shoves and flat call
 
as played it looks like an easy push as MP hasn't shown any strength by open-limping and flat-calling the raise/shove, a lot of the time he'll fold and a lot of the time he calls you'll be way ahead.

SB doesnt need to have too a big hand here and you're not too worried either with the dead money from MP.

i'd rather raise pre than limp behind but its ok I guess with 20BB effective and position

Jaqrabbit 11-28-2007 11:29 AM

Re: $2.25 FTP - TT at 50/100 with 2k, small stack shoves and flat call
 
Raise it up to 400, shove over - so basically, exactly what everyone else said.


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