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guillaumezur 10-29-2007 08:15 PM

outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
i am pretty new to this game , i play most of the time sng or mtt

but god or can it be a call on river? do i miss something?

it cant be read dependent we have less than 50 hands on a same table
pot odds?

dave what did u expect to beat? very curious

PokerStars Game #12925901275: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/10/29 - 20:04:57 (ET)
Table 'Auva IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: talisain51 ($183.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Pandochat ($223.45 in chips)
Seat 3: feedmemore ($299.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Ribi1 ($146 in chips)
Seat 5: magicmike ($281.85 in chips)
Seat 6: guillaumezur ($228.50 in chips)
Seat 7: 7-2o ($107.35 in chips)
Seat 8: Muletz ($230.85 in chips)
Seat 9: davebreal ($360.90 in chips)
davebreal: posts small blind $1
talisain51: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to guillaumezur [5h 3h 9d Ad]
Pandochat: folds
feedmemore: folds
Ribi1: folds
magicmike: folds
guillaumezur: raises $4 to $6
7-2o: folds
Muletz: folds
davebreal: calls $5
talisain51: raises $18 to $24
guillaumezur: calls $18
davebreal: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [9c 2s Th]
davebreal: checks
talisain51: checks
guillaumezur: checks
*** TURN *** [9c 2s Th] [6d]
davebreal: bets $69
talisain51: calls $69
guillaumezur: calls $69
*** RIVER *** [9c 2s Th 6d] [6s]
davebreal: checks
talisain51: checks
guillaumezur: bets $135.50 and is all-in
davebreal: calls $135.50
talisain51: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
guillaumezur: shows [5h 3h 9d Ad] (HI: two pair, Nines and Sixes)
davebreal: shows [9s 8h Ah Td] (HI: two pair, Tens and Nines)
davebreal collected $547 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $550 | Rake $3
Board [9c 2s Th 6d 6s]
Seat 1: talisain51 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: Pandochat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: feedmemore folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Ribi1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: magicmike folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: guillaumezur showed [5h 3h 9d Ad] and lost with HI: two pair, Nines and Sixes
Seat 7: 7-2o folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Muletz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: davebreal (small blind) showed [9s 8h Ah Td] and won ($547) with HI: two pair, Tens and Nines

davebreal 10-29-2007 09:17 PM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
[ QUOTE ]
dave what did u expect to beat? very curious

[/ QUOTE ]

a better question is what hand are you representing when calling on the turn, and betting the river? top set? a straight? Aces up?

probably not.

GaZaZaZa 10-29-2007 10:43 PM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
hey hey,,.,, no shame being outplayed by the best

garcia1000 10-29-2007 11:09 PM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
?

Looks like a busted low draw to me, since you're getting the right pot odds on the turn for a quarter.

I'd call river expecting to lose half the time to a six, but winning the other half.

I think the more interesting question is why davebreal is calling preflop with AT98ss in the small blind to a reraise. Why do you do such a thing??

bbartlog 10-29-2007 11:47 PM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
Not that tough a call. Like Dave says, what hand are you supposedly betting here that's consistent with the play to this point? A269? If you had an overpair to the board, you'd probably just check behind on the river. It just looks like a bluff.

kingmack 10-29-2007 11:52 PM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
Poker 101: Never bluff a donkey. Seriously he's getting better than 3 to 1 to call and like Garcia said it'a at least even money your bluffing a missed low. Easy call.

Sharkzilla1 10-30-2007 04:26 AM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
Yeah I'm confused on even playing A89T in the first place.

Goot call on the river though.

guillaumezur 10-30-2007 05:33 AM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
ty for these response i was curious of the range for a call for beating a bluff in these conditions

seems that my bluff was not clever or made at the good time [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

franknagaijr 10-30-2007 09:18 AM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
Question - If G wanted to represent A236, would a smaller suck bet have been a better choice, or merely given better odds to call him down?

Edit - Answered my own question. He checked the flop and flat called the river. This was a red light for any kind of river bluff here.

Question 2: If he played it more aggro on the flop, could he have represented a 26 combination on the river? Why didn't he get aggro with the nut low draw?

MegaDisgruntled 10-30-2007 09:43 AM

Re: outplayed by dave , superuser call :)
 
I wasn't even playing, so he wasn't losing to the best!


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