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WHITEBOYAEHS 10-10-2007 03:14 PM

flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
only like 50 hands with villain hes like 35/7

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($27.60)
MP ($25.35)
Hero ($27)
Button ($25)
SB ($24.65)
BB ($26.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($1.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, Hero ...play fast or see what happens?

DennisGPunkt 10-10-2007 03:22 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
I call the minbet and c/c any none heart turn and river and obviously bet/raise if my flush completes..

And yes, I'am a calling station..

Jouster777 10-10-2007 03:23 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
Check-minraise usually means draw or monster. Preflop juicer bet makes me think you are likely against another FD but who knows. I play him for those two possibilities (draw/monster) and call flop. On turn I call if he near-pots it and bet if he checks or bets weakly. If he bets three streets and I don't improve I fold river.

Perk76 10-10-2007 03:23 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
I play it fast while you have an advantage over most hands but sets. B/3B/Call shove would be good on this flop.

WHITEBOYAEHS 10-10-2007 03:34 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
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I play it fast while you have an advantage over most hands but sets. B/3B/Call shove would be good on this flop.

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i was about to...i just didnt think my edge was big enough against hands like aa to make up for the time he doest have a set...am i a nit for playing it like this?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($27.60)
MP ($25.35)
Hero ($27)
Button ($25)
SB ($24.65)
BB ($26.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($1.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($5.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5.35</font>, Hero calls $5.35.

River: ($16.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $19.75 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $-3.70

Hail Eris 10-10-2007 03:35 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
It's pretty hard to go wrong in this spot, since if you play it fast you have a ton of equity against any reasonable range, and if you play it slow, you have a hand with a ton of showdown value that doesn't really need protection.

I probably 3bet the flop here because there's a bunch of straight draws and he has stationish stats.

WHITEBOYAEHS 10-10-2007 03:41 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
yeah thats true hail...i just didnt want to get 4bet and see qq cause that always happens to me

Micro Donk 10-10-2007 03:43 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
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yeah thats true hail...i just didnt want to get 4bet and see qq cause that always happens to me

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youre only 30/70 against QQ, so its not the worst thing that could happen.

i tend to 3bet flop, sometimes i just call against nits

WHITEBOYAEHS 10-10-2007 03:48 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
30/70 really? i thought it was less because they can boat and gg whiteboy

Jouster777 10-10-2007 03:48 PM

Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
 
I still think you played it right. You had position, a great draw, reasonable disguise, and a weakly made hand...playing it fast is unnecessary and a focus on the straight draw portion of the range (6 outs) is misguided.


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