Stack off with KK here? 20NL
 

JUST SAT DOWN, NO READ ON VILLAIN YET. FLOP RAISE NOT TYPICAL OF MICRO STAKES DONKS CONCEALING TRIPS, ALTHOUGH I WOULD DO IT TO CONFUSE SOMEONE. DO YOU STACK OFF HERE AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT? OR IS HIS LACK OF FEAR OBVIOUSLY SCREAMING "I HAVE A QUEEN"? ALSO THIS IS HEADS UP SO DOES THAT EFFECT THE LIKELIHOOD OF HIM OUTFLOPPING ME..
(hopefully thats better Thac)
$0.1/$0.2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$20.10</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$29.58</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$22.42</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$11.06</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$22.37</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$14.80</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.3, 6 players) Hero is UTG K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.8</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.8, <font color="#777777">4 folds</font>

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.9, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $3

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9.9, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $6.6</font>

Re: Stack off with KK here? 20NL
 

usually you dont get raised on this flop unless villain has a Q or better. Bet more on the flop, fold to a raise (in this particular scenario)

Re: Stack off with KK here? 20NL
 

I'm definitely folding to the turn bet.
I think you can make an argument for checking the flop and either c/r or c/c. Checking lets villain bet all under pairs that we beat, keeps the pot small, and keeps villain from forcing us off our hand for now. I think if you check raise on the flop its a snap fold if he 4bets, the only problem is I'm not to sure what to do if he smooth calls, because if we let up on the turn it shows quite a bit of weakness and if we lead the turn after c/r we are basically getting pot stuck. I'd probably c/c the flop and depending if lead or checked behind on the flop I would either lead or c/c again.. i'd like to hear some other lines as well.

Re: Stack off with KK here? 20NL
 

Call turn, fold river. Most players don't have the gumption to 3-barrel bluff and the line is more consistent with a bluff then trips.

Re: Stack off with KK here? 20NL
 

I like 4 betting the flop, if the guy raised me that much with a Queen in his hand good for him. But he could be overvaluing his JJ-TT here and playing this relatively safe looking board for stacks.

Re: Stack off with KK here? 20NL
 

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usually you dont get raised on this flop unless villain has a Q or better. Bet more on the flop, fold to a raise (in this particular scenario)

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I don't agree. 88-JJ will do this a lot too

Re: Stack off with KK here? 20NL
 

i don't understand why people would bet more on flop in way ahead/way behind situations. someone please explain?

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I like 4 betting the flop, if the guy raised me that much with a Queen in his hand good for him. But he could be overvaluing his JJ-TT here and playing this relatively safe looking board for stacks.

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Mephisto, what do you do if you 4 bet and he shoves? call and pray for a two outer?