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CalledDownLight 10-01-2007 09:33 PM

QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
Villain is unknown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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UTG ($45.05)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($53.75)</font>
MP1 ($86.15)
MP2 ($99)
MP3 ($91.60)
CO ($23.85)
Button ($99.40)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($182.35)</font>
BB ($42.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $9.

Flop: ($27) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $40.75</font>, Hero calls $25.75.

Standard? Fold to flop raise? Check flop?

CalledDownLight 10-01-2007 11:46 PM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
bump

Mike Kelley 10-01-2007 11:52 PM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
Against unknown villain. I fold and kick a cat.

five4suited 10-02-2007 12:12 AM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
Bet $20 (half his stack) on flop. After that I might find a call since it's only $20 more, but I'm pretty sure that's spew. He probably should have shoved AK pf or folded, so you might be good...

Fiasco 10-02-2007 12:19 AM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
oh yuck, this looked like a totally easy fold till I saw the stack sizes.

Geez, I dont know. I dont know if its possible to bet an amount that you can get away from.

Might be best to just put him all in on the flop (or come close with a roughly pot size bet).

I have nothing useful to say but ive already typed all this out so im posting it.

ship_it_trebek 10-02-2007 02:23 AM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
Putting him all in on the flop seems kinda spewy since villain probably isn't looking us up with anything we beat.

AlexB182 10-02-2007 05:49 AM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
I fold to this flop raise cause we beat close to nothing that he raises with UTG and calls you good sized reraise with. That's AK very very often.

NoRakeBackHere 10-02-2007 07:02 AM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
Fold

CalledDownLight 10-02-2007 10:34 AM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
Is it really that clear of a fold? Surely he has smaller pairs or air sometimes right? Basically everyone puts him on AK here?

jaydreb 10-02-2007 10:42 AM

Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)
 
Look at the hand from his point of view: You showed extreme strength in this hand. Your re-raise PF indicates a big hand (big pair or AK) and you back it up with a decent flop bet. Yet he is pushing into you on the flop. He has to put you on a big hand and has no reason to think that you are going to fold.

In light of this, how likely is it that he is pushing with a mid-pair or JJ/QQ? I think it's possible but very unlikely. But if there's a 25% chance that he's making a move with a mid-pair, then your call is correct.


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