200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

Villain is quite solid: Something like 19/15/3 and we have not tangled yet.

I don't play too goot in these spots, but I really felt like I played this one pretty well. But I'm all for discussion on all streets. I think the river is really the only ??? one, but possibly the flop. Thoughts?

Please note stack sizes before commenting.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $410.00
Hero (BB): $684.55
UTG: $99.30
CO: $189.30
BTN: $260.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26.00</font>, SB calls $18.00

Flop: ($52) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($52) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $40.00</font>, Hero calls $40.00

River: ($132) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $94.00</font>, Hero calls $94.00

Pot Size: $320.00 ($3 Rake)

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

i make it bigger pre, like 30

dont mind how you played it, but i might minraise the turn

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

Lol what's ur FTP sign in name?

Why check flop? I'd just get it in here but people think I'm crazy I guess.

As played it's fine.

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

nh

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

definitely raise a bit more preflop as he'll be calling you lighter with the stacks you have.

i really don't get the flop check... i mean this isn't UTG vs UTG+1, its BVB, he could have 9T here. Obvioulsy you aren't stacking off here but you have to bet as he isn't going to immediately put you on KK unless you are an ubernit. Get some value.

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

I want to raise the river given the line you took. But whatever, the hand looks fine. I'd bet the flop generally though and I wouldn't be looking to fold if raised.

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

WTF @ raise more preflop, whyyyyyyyyy ???????? That makes no sense, hell, I'd raise less to 24 usually even. Flop check, meh, whatever. Rest is std if you do that. I bet flop, call c/r call turn shove

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

Maybe I'm looking at this too simplistically then?

He makes a standard raise to take the blinds. I reraise, which, to be honest, I'm not doing much vs a TAG...maybe I need to look into this.

Nonetheless, we're both deep and he called a 3bet, so I give him credit for a hand. Something mid-pair, and AJ+?

The reason for no flop bet is that I'm not too worried about free cards here as it's WA/WB here, imo. Plus, the ONLY hands I'm getting value from are TT-QQ which are possible, but I fold out the VAST majority of hands by betting and if he HAPPENS to have a set here, I keep the pot reasonable, being 200+BB's deep.

So the same thing could be said on the turn as for the lack of a raise here. Plus, it SCREAMS strength when checking the flop behind and raising the turn. Therefore, if he has Ax or TT-QQ, I allow him to keep betting the river.

By playing this as passive as I did, I think I'm forced to call the river, but I think we're beat here a VAST majority of the time, but I set this up, so you have to pay it off. I think raising the river is pure spew here.

WTF calls us when we raise this river that we beat? Mayyyyyyyyyybe QQ, and that's it.

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

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WTF @ raise more preflop, whyyyyyyyyy ???????? That makes no sense, hell, I'd raise less to 24 usually even. Flop check, meh, whatever. Rest is std if you do that. I bet flop, call c/r call turn shove

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Isn't that fairly exploitable though? I mean, you had a THINKING player 200BB's if he happens to crack your big pair?

I think that's pretty bad here. You have to take into consideration both of our images here.

If this were Nielsio or goofyballer in the BB, you'd tell him to stack off here too? I think that's pretty horrible.

With YOUR image, sure, no doubt. But I'm not a LAG, carrot....

Re: 200NL: KK in Blind v. Blind vs Solid...
 

you and goofy are gonna get along just fine &lt;3