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billybeartku 10-26-2007 09:30 AM

nl 100, AQo TPTK in 3bet pot.
 
new to the table, not so much reads on villain.

I feel like I got slow played by AA or KK..

Is 3betting pre a bad idea with AQ in sb?


Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $80.05
BTN: $124.50
Hero (SB): $100
BB: $165.20
UTG: $107.95
MP: $81

Pre-Flop: Q A dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, CO raises to $5, BTN folds, Hero raises to $17, BB folds, CO calls $12

Flop: ($35) 7 3 Q (2 Players)
Hero bets $29, CO raises to $63.05 and is All-In, Hero ??

Suigin406 10-26-2007 09:34 AM

Re: nl 100, AQo TPTK in 3bet pot.
 
against a CO raiser, this is fine with no reads

i'm calling here

make a note if had AA/KK and the opening bet to 5 he made...

nazahl 10-26-2007 09:39 AM

Re: nl 100, AQo TPTK in 3bet pot.
 
[ QUOTE ]
against a CO raiser, this is fine with no reads

i'm calling here

make a note if had AA/KK and the opening bet to 5 he made...

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yea, ur kinda stuck in this spot.

one thing to note though...

if you're gonna cbet close to full pot on this dry of a board then it doesnt make any sense to consider folding.

leading for close to pot makes it obvious to villain that you're committed and lets him fold his underpairs easily/shove on you w/ AA/KK knowing that you can't fold since youve put in too much. I'd have bet like 2/3 pot to induce calls from lower pps/to maybe induce a bluff.

kelvinsense 10-26-2007 09:52 AM

Re: nl 100, AQo TPTK in 3bet pot.
 
I was in the exact same situation (in the sb) and I had a late position caller, except he flat-called my flop bet.

How much should we bet in these 3bet pots?

nazahl 10-26-2007 10:08 AM

Re: nl 100, AQo TPTK in 3bet pot.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I was in the exact same situation (in the sb) and I had a late position caller, except he flat-called my flop bet.

How much should we bet in these 3bet pots?

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it varies a lot depending on villain/board texture.

against a calling station who is going to showdown like 30% of the time, u wanna try and build a pot quickly and get him committed for a stack. if the board comes Q 9 8 w/ a flush draw, obviously u need to bet more to protect your hand from draws. in OPs post on a Q73 rainbow board, we're not really worried about draws so we wanna get value from his weaker hands w/out tipping the strength of our own and blowing him off everything. if we bet 2/3 pot or maybe a bit less, we can get calls from 88-JJ where a full pot bet would probably scare him away.

CobraGoat 10-26-2007 11:01 AM

Re: nl 100, AQo TPTK in 3bet pot.
 
2/3 pot is about mandatory in a 3bet pot whether we hit or not. as stated i agree that potting this flop is a hair much.

Leptyne 10-26-2007 11:17 AM

Re: nl 100, AQo TPTK in 3bet pot.
 
There are a lot of posts regarding opening up your preflop 3-bet range, esp. from the blinds. IMHO 3-betting unknown shorties OOP with AQo is a bad idea,. Actually 3-betting AQo anytime is a bad idea unless you are doing this by exception.

HoldEmNewby 10-26-2007 11:42 AM

Re: nl 100, AQo TPTK in 3bet pot.
 
not a fan of preflop, postflop looks standard.


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