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shaniac 11-26-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
ah for some reason I thought it was twice in one orbit...

anyway, thread is a good reminder why it's better not to berate fish!

eurythmech 11-26-2007 11:09 PM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
Question to djk, how do you use SNGPT for ICM calcs in the midstages of an MTT?

djk123 11-26-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
not ICM, just chip EV

stevepa 11-26-2007 11:25 PM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
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anyway, thread is a good reminder why it's better not to berate fish!

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DCJ311 11-30-2007 08:02 AM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
All the ranges in this hand seem way too loose, IMO. For me it's like 99+ AQ+. He doesn't show up with much worse with 11x BB in this position.

stevepa 11-30-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
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All the ranges in this hand seem way too loose, IMO. For me it's like 99+ AQ+. He doesn't show up with much worse with 11x BB in this position.

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If this is true, then my "good" read is waaaaaay off and he is terrible. Not shoving 22 in his spot is a travesty, and not shoving 72o is just as bad or worse if everyone behind is only calling 99+/AQ. (Maybe you didn't see there are relatively big antes?)

edited for clarity.

Steve

curtains 11-30-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
[ QUOTE ]
All the ranges in this hand seem way too loose, IMO. For me it's like 99+ AQ+. He doesn't show up with much worse with 11x BB in this position.

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Way too tight with the antes IMO. If that is really our range and the rest of the table is remotely similar, he should almost certainly be shoving a ridiculous wide range.

DCJ311 12-01-2007 06:29 AM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
upz didn't see there were 1/10 antes. Definitely would loosen up to 77+ AJs+ for sure.

Yoshi63 12-01-2007 07:39 AM

Re: Quick preflop range checkup in 100r
 
It's worth mentioning that we should subtract about 1000 chips from our EV to compensate for when one of the blinds wakes up w/ AK/TT+. This adds about 2% to the 45% breakeven call figure. It may seem meaningless, but if we're gonna nitpick which hands make up the borderline, it's more correct.


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