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ElGuapo23 02-27-2007 12:02 AM

Live 10/20 Commerce
 
10/20 NL at Commerce

I've been in the game for only 1 or 2 rounds. No real reads.

I have $2100 and Villain covers by a lot.

Folded to me in the cutoff. I open to $100 with KhQh. Villain calls on the button.

Flop ($230): 3c7h9h
I lead $200. Villain calls.

Turn ($630): 3c7h9h Ts
I check? Villain bets $450. I think and call?

River ($1530): 3c7h9hTs Kc
I check. Villain bets $750 with a pink 5k chip.

After I think for ~10 sec he says "you didnt suck out on the river did you?"



I don't like the way I played this hand, I was wondering what a good line would be.


Thanks

Post-Oak 02-27-2007 02:49 AM

Re: Live 10/20 Commerce
 
As played, I definitely call the river. I like the check on the river there.

Alternate lines would be to CR semi-bluff the turn, or to lead the turn. Both would be acceptable. I don't usually like check-calling the turn in these types of spots.

BKiCe 02-27-2007 03:18 AM

Re: Live 10/20 Commerce
 
c-r turn. as played i turbo call.

jcmoussa 02-27-2007 03:39 AM

Re: Live 10/20 Commerce
 
that chat usually means youre beat

FeNeF 02-27-2007 04:15 AM

Re: Live 10/20 Commerce
 
I'm checkraising this turn just about always.

DJ Sensei 02-27-2007 06:23 AM

Re: Live 10/20 Commerce
 
bet/fold river would be best, if you had more of a stack.

c/r turn is better than c/c, but is obviously a high-variance play. leading out turn kinda sucks.

iggymcfly 02-27-2007 09:24 AM

Re: Live 10/20 Commerce
 
I don't like your turn line at all here. You're giving away any chance at just taking the pot down (which I think is pretty good since you're getting floated quite a bit on the flop there) and you're also pretty much telegraphing a draw with the bet, check/call line given stack sizes. You're going to have a really hard time getting paid off if a heart hits the river.

I think I'd have to agree with most of the other posters here and suggest a C/R. If you bet, villian can easily push you all-in making the hand play effectively the same when villian has a good hand. However, when villian's weak, you'll still get a bet on the turn the vast majority of the time, so you'll make more when you take the pot down.

creedofhubris 02-27-2007 09:36 AM

Re: Live 10/20 Commerce
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm checkraising this turn just about always.

[/ QUOTE ]

and since this is live if he tanks at all you can make some comment like "if you have me beat you have me beat", complete with fake big sigh

ElGuapo23 02-27-2007 11:29 PM

Re: Live 10/20 Commerce
 
Thanks for the input. I also don't like the c/c on the turn. I think a c/r would have been better.

I ended up folding to the river bet, he didn't show.


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