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bsball8806 11-29-2007 10:04 PM

can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
Don't know why the hand history isn't converting, but w/e.

Reads: Villain over about 40 hands appears to be a solid TAG.

5 handed, .05/.1 blinds, I have $11.30, Villain covers.

I raise UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] to $0.40.
BTN calls, Villain calls from the SB

Pot is $1.30
Flop is 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain leads out for $1.30, I reraise to $5.50, he shoves.

Can I find a fold?

Fulzgold 11-29-2007 10:09 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
you're definitely behind here. yes you can fold.

also, if you are ahead, your equity isnt that strong.

Paul Thomson 11-29-2007 10:09 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
no

Paul Thomson 11-29-2007 10:10 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
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you're definitely behind here. yes you can fold.

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we're ahead of KQ, TJ, and 87

mickb70 11-29-2007 10:11 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
I can't find a call.

Paul Thomson 11-29-2007 10:17 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
we only need to be good here 25% of the time to call.

mickb70 11-29-2007 10:30 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
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we only need to be good here 25% of the time to call.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.671% 23.50% 00.17% 6514 47.50 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 76.329% 76.16% 00.17% 21111 47.50 { TT-99, AKs, QJs, AKo, QJo }

Salient point and i make it 5.4 more into 22.7 pot so need 23.78 which seems to make this close. I've already folded but I was prob wrong on closer inspection.

Paul Thomson 11-29-2007 10:33 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
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we only need to be good here 25% of the time to call.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.671% 23.50% 00.17% 6514 47.50 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 76.329% 76.16% 00.17% 21111 47.50 { TT-99, AKs, QJs, AKo, QJo }

Salient point and i make it 5.4 more into 22.7 pot so need 23.78 which seems to make this close. I've already folded but I was prob wrong on closer inspection.

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nice try. put in TJ and 9T and KQ

Fulzgold 11-29-2007 10:34 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
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you're definitely behind here. yes you can fold.

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we're ahead of KQ, TJ, and 87

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villian appears to be a solid TAG. Easy fold.

mickb70 11-29-2007 10:36 PM

Re: can I fold here with AA on the flop?
 
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we only need to be good here 25% of the time to call.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.671% 23.50% 00.17% 6514 47.50 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 76.329% 76.16% 00.17% 21111 47.50 { TT-99, AKs, QJs, AKo, QJo }

Salient point and i make it 5.4 more into 22.7 pot so need 23.78 which seems to make this close. I've already folded but I was prob wrong on closer inspection.

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nice try. put in TJ and 9T and QJ

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I just put in the certainies to get us enough equity to call. TJ 9T maybe even 89 are just gravy. QJ is already there BTW.


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