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Big_Jim 04-04-2007 07:28 AM

C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
$2/$5 $200 buy in at Chumash Casino in Santa Ynez, CA

Villain has been pretty bad and predictable. Will usually bluff when checked to. He's made a few bad calls with top pair no kicker kind of hands, pretty standard live semi-agro donk.

I've been playing quite a few hands, but nothing crazy. Winning a lot of pots without showdown, but showing down winners in the big pots.

Villain raises to $20 in LP with $300 behind, folds to me in the BB with AJo and I call.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (~40)
I check, <font color="red">Villain bets $30</font>, I call.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (~100)
I check in rhythm, villain checks right back

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (~100)
I look at my cards again, and check, <font color="red">Villain quickly bets $70</font>, I think for a few seconds and <font color="red">raise all in ($180 to call) </font>

How is this line with the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? Without?

Thoughts on looking at my cards?

BalugaWhale 04-04-2007 07:34 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
if you've been c/r a lot, i'd so much rather c/r the flop

this line is great w/ the A of diamonds and pretty bad without it i think.

BalugaWhale 04-04-2007 07:36 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
actually, i prefer c/r the flop without the A of diamonds.

terp 04-04-2007 07:36 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
the looking at your cards and checking is hot, especially against this guy given your reads. he probably won't be able to resist betting anything.

his turn check could mean he has a big diamond and doesn't want to get c/r off his draw....or it could mean he has nothing or a weak showdownable hand, quite frequently.

i like this a lot.

Big_Jim 04-04-2007 07:37 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
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if you've been c/r a lot, i'd so much rather c/r the flop

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Definitely considered it, but thought there was more value to be made from letting him bluff.

I hadn't been check/raising hardly at all, either, since I was rarely playing pots OOP, without initiative.

Also, how, if at all, does having the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] affect your line?

BalugaWhale 04-04-2007 07:41 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
I like c/c the flop and leading any turn with the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

then, if the river came as it did, i'd c/r as you did.

Big_Jim 04-04-2007 07:47 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
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I like c/c the flop and leading any turn with the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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Not sure I understand why you'd want to lead a blank with the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] but not without. Seems backwards, to me.

BalugaWhale 04-04-2007 07:55 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
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Not sure I understand why you'd want to lead a blank with the A but not without. Seems backwards, to me.

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without it I am c/r the flop

jkkkk 04-04-2007 07:57 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
I'd cr the flop and depending on how wide his range is on the turn I'd bet again or cr ai, I'm guessing hes the sort of guy to stack off w/ Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Jo in this spot right?

when he checks through I think it doesn't matter if you have the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or not, checking is clearly the best play, I sorta hate cr'ing ai here as a bluff against aggro donktards, but cr ai w/ the nuts is a beautiful play here.

wdrzich 04-04-2007 11:27 AM

Re: C/R on a 4-Flush Board: $2/$5 Live
 
Jim, since he checked the turn, this is only good with the Ad imo, and bad as a bluff.


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