Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn
 

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No reads on villain.

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Besides people on EVP are in general more passive than on stars etc.

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Is it fine to bet/call turn?

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Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn
 

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Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn
 

I think I would probably call (I am not a master at making laydowns). I really do not think it is big +- EV either way. I guess with TT I would be pretty comftorable calling .... 99 seems borderline. Always a posibility that he thought your turn bet was kind of weak and that he is making a play, maybe he picked up a flush draw and overcard on turn.

The fact that he is in short tilts this to a call for me, plus I place some value on learning when the situation seems so close .... tending to call. I do not think he is a very good player, but if he really had a big hand he had no reason to get fancy, he could have just value bet close to pot oon turn and river to get it All IN.

Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn
 

lol how could that be the worst case scenario

Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn
 

umm, 9's are usually always beat here... by usually I mean over 50% of the time. Passive villain, is going to push a draw here? float with 6 7 of hearts and push an openended straight flush draw? Going to push A 5? Most of these hands villain would be calling, and check folding or bluffing river. I fold here. If I was going to guess, it looks like A 3 is protecting its hand.

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lol how could that be the worst case scenario

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Hehe

True worst case scenario is if he also has slowplayed sets and overpairs in his range as well etc

Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn
 

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Kinda worst case scenario is probably something like below and then it's slightly marginal -EV, but a random fish range could perhaps consists of other crappy hands:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 69.091% 69.09% 00.00% 1368 0.00 { Ah8h, Th8h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 76s }
Hand 1: 30.909% 30.91% 00.00% 612 0.00 { 99 }

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That range is straight absurd

Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn
 

As played I think I fold his hand range is really large here, hes holding a 2 pair/set type of hand or hes has a big flush draw with 2 overs, either way I think you -EV to put your money in vs what hes holding.