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Someone should tell Shannon that running the way he is wont do much for him.

If you want to lose weight, you want your heart rate in the zone for 20 mins at least, he'd be much better off cutting it back as much as needed to make sure he runs continuously for 20 mins, not including warm up and cool down.

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I have no idea who Shannon Shorr is but I just read the bio on his blog and he seems like some random guy who went on a hot streak in tournaments and is now being pulled back into reality because he's realized he's not as good at poker as he originally thought. Big deal.

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I pretty much came to this conclusion as well reading his site and that blog post. He could be a great guy but that has nothing to do with anything. Online MTTs have lots of variance and it seems as though he ran hot and overestiamted his abilities. The fact that he has a condenscending tone towards 2p2'ers who post alot and spend lots of time actually trying to improve is what made it seem as though he isn't really made out for poker and just ran good.

And yes i'm open to being proved wrong, this is just the impression I got from browsing his site. For all I know he's played 2000 MTTs a month for a full 2 years straight and has a big sample size.. or has played hundreds of thousands of hands of cash.. but based on the tone of his blog, i'd assume he hasn't. Him deciding to just "dabble" in cash kinda came off as though he felt he'd just jump into some cash games and make back tourney losses and it was the same thing with no idea of how the cash games have toughened over the past year. Just my impression for someone who doesn't know him.

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Someone should tell Shannon that running the way he is wont do much for him.

If you want to lose weight, you want your heart rate in the zone for 20 mins at least, he'd be much better off cutting it back as much as needed to make sure he runs continuously for 20 mins, not including warm up and cool down.

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wow, another dummy. it never ceases to amaze me how much dumb there is in here.

lose weight through diet. you can get in the zone all you want but if you eat burger king all day, it isnt going to do anything for losing weight.

shannon needs a good exercise regimen and most importantly, a good diet regimen. you can get ripped without cardio. cardio is just another form of burning calories and strengthning the respiratory sytem...... thats all.

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I think it makes you a much more fundamentally sound player and gives a better idea of reality. In tournaments since the variance is so huge, the reality is always being thrown off by a huge score here or a 6 month drought there. He just needs to learn cash.

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i think shannon is a classic case of someone who was spoiled with early success and didnt really have a clue about the big picture..... now its a "stupid" game.


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Well I should have just read the whole thread first, looks like others pretty much typed what I would already.

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but anyone who thinks poker suddenly isn't worth it because it is hard work has run too well to realize that it should be.


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Agree 100%

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If he doesn't want "to invest more time in this stupid game" than he already is, then he's probably better off doing something else.

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I could never understand how Shannon did it when he was going to every tournament trying to win POY. I'm kind of surprised online is what burnt him out and not a year of constant traveling to playboring live MTTs and spending all his time in casinos.

And yeah +1 to the "shannon's a good guy not a douche" camp

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Shorr is a classic example of learning through success; I have several friends who went down a similar path and are now broke or close to it. The guy was a breakeven SNG player for a very long time, went nuts in a few MTTs and all of a sudden he views himself as one of the best. A lot of others fit this mold.

A reputable source told me that he would play high stakes chinese poker and overlook straight flush royalties. He may be a nice guy and cool, but he has far too many leaks in his game/lifestyle to be complaining so adamantly. I have no sympathy for a guy who has run better than 99% of us and now thinks the games are unbeatable. Once he joins reality again I predict he'll take a different view.

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yeah. stupid players winning money is terrible for the game. you truly understand pokar.

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Among all the high stakes players, (especially the successful ones who had big scores) i can easily say that Shannon was among the nicest and most genuine. I think his decision to quit poker wouldnt be a terrible one if he can do it on a part time basis and have a full time job as well. That is the ideal mix. Good luck with ur decision Shannon, and really liked ur blog when it was updated on a consistent basis.

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so we have high stakes players saying shannon was solid at 25/50, and donkNgoers/choo-chooers saying he just wasnt good. hmm

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Shannon should just take a break for 6 months or a year. Poker gets boring after a while especially if you aren't winning. Taking a break gets your mind off of the disgusting beats and other frustrations.

Honestly though, if I won $1,000,000+ after taxes, I would invest 90% of and live off the interest. That's $50,000+/year to live off of. But I'm just a huge nit without a million in the bank. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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you are a smart man.

most will never understand what poker's true meaning is. its a game about yourself. who are you on the inside. most people think there is some big secret to unlock and even though i agree that there is a fair amount of knowledge to be learned, the bottom line is if you are weak mentally.

poker will always be profitable for the mentally strong. i cant tell you all how many ive seen come and go or blow up at the moment of truth. the pressure gets to people. no amount of knowing what to do with j9 suited is going to help if you are weak on the inside.

this thread has really pissed me off. i think shannon is a classic case of someone who was spoiled with early success and didnt really have a clue about the big picture..... now its a "stupid" game.

he's absolutely right though. it is a stupid game filled with negativity and ugliness. but if someone is going to start something, then finish it strong. quit when your on top. dont be a pussy and quit when the cruel bitch aint showin love. fight back or shut up and run back to college, your girlfriend or momma.

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Why are you getting mad at him because he expresses how he feels at the time, exactly how you are doing now?

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I bet if Shannon played 5-10 nl he would never struggle and would make 250k a year but for some reason that kind of money and success doesn't interest a lot of people. And when I say a lot of people I mean people who haven't gotten up to go to work at 6 am and do real work type of stuff.

Poker is about surviving, the name of the game is to stay in the game.

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Who was it that said, "Son you're still young, so do yourself a favor and dont waste your whole life playing this stupid game...."

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Pretty much anyone who has been playing for 5+ years. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I'm sure Daniel Negraneau is going next, he'll put on his blog how he's bored playing poker and would rather just play golf, the fact of the matter is he suck now and should quit poker too.

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I make a decent living playing mtts, it can be pretty tough though. You definitely have to keep working on your game though, I read about poker like 8 hours a day on 2p2, play a ton, and post some and I still feel like I'm not getting better fast enough.

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QFT. Luckily for Bakes though, he's just being modest, cause that guy is crushing lately and clearing puts in the work.

I disagree with Anskys post, i think you can make a very comfortable living at MTT's if you're a serious student, a grinder, and can handle the totally absurd variance.

As for those bashing Shannon, i met him just before he blew up in the poker world and 2 years later he seems like the same low key and down to earth guy. I applaud him for the honesty he shows in his blog post. GL dude.

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Shorr is a classic example of learning through success; I have several friends who went down a similar path and are now broke or close to it. The guy was a breakeven SNG player for a very long time, went nuts in a few MTTs and all of a sudden he views himself as one of the best. A lot of others fit this mold.

A reputable source told me that he would play high stakes chinese poker and overlook straight flush royalties. He may be a nice guy and cool, but he has far too many leaks in his game/lifestyle to be complaining so adamantly. I have no sympathy for a guy who has run better than 99% of us and now thinks the games are unbeatable. Once he joins reality again I predict he'll take a different view.

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Are you arguing hearsay about Shannon's Chinese Poker game, correlate to his actual poker skill?

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agree with you there ansky except the part about menlo. he's above imperium and sctrojans and all the other pocketfives ranked guys. the dude is a [censored] prodigy or something and plays nowhere near the volume all the top ranked pocketfives dudes plays and still owns them all.

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Shorr is a classic example of learning through success; I have several friends who went down a similar path and are now broke or close to it. The guy was a breakeven SNG player for a very long time, went nuts in a few MTTs and all of a sudden he views himself as one of the best. A lot of others fit this mold.

A reputable source told me that he would play high stakes chinese poker and overlook straight flush royalties. He may be a nice guy and cool, but he has far too many leaks in his game/lifestyle to be complaining so adamantly. I have no sympathy for a guy who has run better than 99% of us and now thinks the games are unbeatable. Once he joins reality again I predict he'll take a different view.

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Are you arguing hearsay about Shannon's Chinese Poker game, correlate to his actual poker skill?

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If actually true, which I believe it is, then yes. And not just skill, but discipline in life.

Why go off and play high stakes Chinese Poker (when you're obviously -EV in it) when there's plenty of good games available, then complain about how 'poker has changed' when you start to go on a downswing, get lazy, and overspend on other things in life?

He may be a nice guy, but it really grates on me when people who have won quite a few 7-8 figure coinflips in life start going off about how poker is unbeatable when they're just too stupid and lazy to master the game. If you ever see me win a WPT or WSOP event then hear me complain about how bad I run or how poker is unbeatable, then I would expect nothing less than getting flamed.

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Shorr is a classic example of learning through success; I have several friends who went down a similar path and are now broke or close to it. The guy was a breakeven SNG player for a very long time, went nuts in a few MTTs and all of a sudden he views himself as one of the best. A lot of others fit this mold.

A reputable source told me that he would play high stakes chinese poker and overlook straight flush royalties. He may be a nice guy and cool, but he has far too many leaks in his game/lifestyle to be complaining so adamantly. I have no sympathy for a guy who has run better than 99% of us and now thinks the games are unbeatable. Once he joins reality again I predict he'll take a different view.

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Are you arguing hearsay about Shannon's Chinese Poker game, correlate to his actual poker skill?

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Engrish only, please.

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I decided to let this thread run its course for a while before commenting. It's been an entertaining one. I'm not here to try to change anyone's opinion of me. FutureDoc hit the nail on the head though when he noticed that all the people saying I suck are the microstakes nobodies with whom I've never played or met, and the guys vouching for me are 25/50 ballas like thegrumpyone or very successful tournament players with whom I've played thousands of hands. So many of you kids are just such haters. It goes without saying. I read these fu,cking forums and every other thread is one where you're trying to report someone's busto or your talking sh,it about someone. I haven't played much poker in 2007 nor have I had THAT bad of a year. It has been a losing one, but 90% of my 2007 losses are from live MTTs (all 40 of them...how do you like that sample size?). You would think I've had one of the worst years in history, however, because I'm honest about my results on my blog and there's a post about it every week here or on P5s. So many guys have had worse 2007s that have just gone under the radar. Every blog post is dissected word for word by the haters. I keep blogging though because for every post with hatred I see, I receive probably five emails from people saying how much they appreciate my honesty. In closing, some misconceptions to clear up after reading the thread because it seems people don't know much about me:

1) I haven't grossed the full $1.8M in on-paper live tournament winnings because of a deal I made. I'm a huge lifetime winner in this department though, obviously.

2) I have never played anyone's money but mine.

3) I am a fairly large lifetime winner in NLHE cash games. I killed 25/50 at Party and did quite well at Stars. I had a nice Stars bankroll, but I played super high stakes Chinese poker with Matusow, Roland de Wolfe, David Grey, etc in Australia and got crushed. I had to pay off the debts using my online money. I didn't learn my lesson and continued to play and had one more awful session playing HU criss-cross with a friend who was knowledgable abt Chinese and lost more of my online roll. This is probably the biggest mistake of my career because if not for this incident I would probably still be playing (and beating) 25/50 at Stars. I had no idea how to play the game when I played super high in Australia. lol at this fu,ck DCJ311 or whatever. I know Rob Mizrachi is the source you're talking about. I missed one straight flush when I was fu,cked up out of my mind at Commerce after coming back from a Clippers game. I realized right when I opened my hand that I'd overlooked a wheel straight flush and Rob pointed it out. It didn't happen again. It's funny because DCJ posted the same thing months ago in some other thread. I'm sure he's just some live nit grinder who is pissed at the world and all the young kids who make more money than him. In my blog post when I talked about "dabbling" in NLHE cash games, I used that word because I've been away from cash for a while. It's not like I'm brand new to cash games and just fu,cking jumped into the biggest game I could find with my tournament bankroll.

4) I am a big lifetime loser in high limit o8 cash games despite going on a $200,000 lucksack upswing upon first learning the game.

5) I am a small lifetime loser in the approximately 10 live cash game sessions I've played.

6) I have no intention of playing online MTT for a living. It is just too difficult and I don't have anywhere near the volume to tell if I could be one of the best. In fact, I am a loser on Stars over like 200 tournies but a big winner at FTP and UB. I am only playing online MTT at the moment bc I'm waiting on Five Diamond to get here in Vegas. My blog post may have come across as being pissed off about how I was running at online MTT. That's not the case at all. The stakes are micro compared to what I've played live.

7) I was a big (relative to stakes) winner at SnG way back in 2005. lol @ guy calling me breakeven SnG player.

8)If I continue to play poker full-time I'll probably just take up residence somewhere and grind NLHE cash games online. The idea of that is pretty disenchanting though, so its very possible I'll venture into another career.

9) You guys are silly if you don't think I read and study the game. My comment in my blog was just saying I should probably do it 5-7 hours a day if I really, really wanted to be at the top of my game. I'm not playing the game at this point to grind out the highest possible hourly rate. I'll be content with knocking off a tournament every now and then for six figures and getting a little better along the way.

10) I'm confused how anyone can attack me as a person. I've been completely honest all along the way and never, ever berated a player online or live. I don't even talk when I'm playing poker, so I don't see how I could upset anyone. It's funny because all the guys that do talk shi,t after dragging or losing a pot are kinda looked upon as heroes, and I'm a douchebag.

11) I'm not even close to busto and still have more money than I know what to do with, so the haters can quit stroking their co,cks fantasizing about the idea of me being broke [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I simply think I could lead a more interesting, more enjoyable life in another field. Thus, I might do that.

I think that's all I've got. Hate on.

SS

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much respect man. No clue who u are but that shows my own infatuation with my own weak, rungood game..

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I am a fairly large lifetime winner in NLHE cash games. I killed 25/50 at Party and did quite well at Stars. I had a nice Stars bankroll, but I played super high stakes Chinese poker with Matusow, Roland de Wolfe, David Grey, etc in Australia and got crushed. I had to pay off the debts using my online money. I didn't learn my lesson and continued to play and had one more awful session playing HU criss-cross with a friend and lost more of my online roll. This is probably the biggest mistake of my career because if not for this incident I would probably still be playing (and beating) 25/50 at Stars. I had no idea how to play the game when I played super high in Australia. lol at this fu,ck DCJ311 or whatever. I know Rob Mizrachi is the source you're talking about. I missed one straight flush when I was fu,cked up out of my mind at Commerce after coming back from a Clippers game. I realized right when I opened my hand that I'd overlooked a wheel straight flush and Rob pointed it out. It didn't happen again. It's funny because DCJ posted the same thing months ago in some other thread. I'm sure he's just some live nit grinder who is pissed at the world and all the young kids who make more money than him. In my blog post when I talked about "dabbling" in NLHE cash games, I used that word because I've been away from cash for a while. It's not like I'm brand new to cash games and just fu,cking jumped into the biggest game I could find with my tournament bankroll.

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what were the stakes of the chinese poker games and how much did you lose?

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Since you have more money than you know what to do with... Mind buying me some blue cheese? I love that [censored] to put in my hamburgers .... SHANNON SHORR is the TRUTH 1LUV MY NUKKAH.

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Great Post Shannon [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Stephen

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yea, pull a DAevils and put up a competition for us railtards..........p.s. i cant do a handstand

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Shannon, f.uck the haters, they are just jealous. If you have banked as much as you imply, then good for you. Enjoy it and invest it well.

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Limping through November
November 11, 2007, 11:25 am by Shannon Shorr
It's been a while since the last update. I've been playing online tournaments pretty routinely the last week or so. In short, I've been getting killed. I don't think I made any final tables, and basically you have to do that to make money in online MTT. I have been running much worse than EV though, unfortunately. I've also dabbled in some HU NLHE cash. It started to go well, but things have turned sour in that department too. It's so sick how much NLHE has changed in the last year. I just haven't been able to adjust at all, I guess. Maybe things will turn around. Maybe they won't. I thought I had what it takes to play poker professionally, but I'm starting to doubt myself. One thing is for sure. This game isn't for the weak. All of you kids who are thinking about dropping out of school and doing this...think again. Most of you will be done before you ever even get started. I'm not enjoying playing full-time one bit. I probably should dedicate more time to reading/studying the game and players like some guys do. I just don't want to invest any more time into this stupid game than I already do. It seems like I'm at the computer so much already. Some of these kids with their 4438957 posts on 2p2 just live so [censored] one-dimensionally. They really get off to this game. There is a very, very good chance that my last hurrah as a poker player will be at Five Diamond later this month. There's so many more interesting things I want to do with my time and money. I liked the person I was before poker a lot more, I think. Who knows though. I've pondered retiring from poker several times as you guys recall, and I've never really left the game. Maybe I'll win Five Diamond for like a million and a half. I've been talking to one of my friends who is an online MTT superstar, and there's a good chance I've been making a fairly fundamental mistake in MTTs. The funny thing about this game is that you always think you're playing perfect poker. I've tried several different strategies this year in live MTTs, and I look back at each of them and think wtf. I've played like a super nit, and the day after busting I tell myself I should've loosened up. I've played like a Swedish maniac and the next day I tell myself I should've played like a nit. Maybe I'm thinking TOO much. I'm playing the Sunday tournaments today. Let's make something happen.

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This sounds very similar to my current attitude toward poker. However, he's got the millions of dollars in tournament earnings and I don't. So I guess he has a little bit of a head start on whatever he decides to do next.

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Like Barry says in Ace on the River, if all he had done was play poker and win at the end of his life, he would have been a failure. IMO poker should either be something you do on the side for extra money / enjoyment, or something you do hardcore for a few years only to get you somewhere better.

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Nice Post Shannon

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Anybody who has been on the live scene (MTTs and cash games) for an extended period and lives in Vegas knows that Mr. Schorrs story is fairly common. Its a whole different ballgame living in Vegas where there a a million places to have leaks (-ev table games, girls, tables at nightclubs, dinner at world-class restaurants, hotel suites, etc) Spending alot of money in those spots tends to snowball into your poker game and affects your play.

I remember satelliting in to $2000 PL at WSOP 2003, going home only to have a friend call that he had 4 "smokin hot" girls in his hot tub. I ended up stayin out till 4am and showed up at he tourny and donked offf my stack in about two hours. I was pissed off so I went and donked off some more money playing BJ, went home to take a nap and woke up and bought into a game where i could recoup those losses as fast as possible.http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c.../burnmoney.gif

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shannon seemed to be talking like he has enough money to not do anything for awhile, but what is he planning to do when he runs out of money

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Re: Grinding2Ecstasy

I don't think Barry is the example you want to point to to support your ideas about poker.

Barry Greenstein still plays poker for a living. It's just that he's made donations to charity with large portions of his winnings.

He's spent more time in physical cardrooms than almost anyone else his age. And he still plays and very full live tournament schedule. In many ways he is (as he hinted at on "the Poker Road") "Father Poker" to the young generation of internet poker whiz kids.

Not since his college days has Barry played poker for extra money/enjoyment. He's been a hardcore poker player for over 30 years. I don't see how he fits into your view of what poker should be.

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not saying what poker 'should be' or that Barry fits into that. Was quoting him, and the basic idea that there's more to life than poker and Barry has only been at it so long because he is a) exceptionally good at it, b) a big spender who needs to support his lifestyle. Besides, he's had children, advanced education, and a serious real job.

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Shannon,

It takes a lot of balls to be completely honest about your financial situation on a public forum. Not sure what your motivation is, but you have my respect.

Of course this honesty is going to bring on the haters...but they are haters for a reason. Jealousy.

It's so easy to sound tough on these forums...real life is a different story.

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Poker can suck the life out of you. The highs and lows are like peaks and valleys or some insane topographical map. I tell people, when they ask me about poker- I tell them dont start playing, dont get into it. For me it's been a huge preoccupation at best and a 24/7 obsession at worst. I've learned and matured through poker, and I've come to a point where I'm impervious to things in life that irritate other people because of the conditioning you have to go through and the mental abilities you have to acquire in order to be succesful in the game. One of the hardest things to do is to learn how to shelter those around you from what you go through as a player. Try telling your mom you lost ten grand in five hours, or try and explain to someone who doesn't play that even though you dropped twenty five grand this month you're still a winning player. It's hard to find a balance between honesty and protection, because believe me, you need to protect the people that care about you from agonizing over how they perceive your occupation or hobby.

Most of the people who post on twoplustwo and criticize others as their main reason to post- they're either teenagers who dont have a clue, failed poker players with intense resentment and jealousy, or life-know-it-all's who have been succesful at poker over a ridiculously small sample size. The thing is, and I've said this before with this same disclaimer, you can't relate to what someone goes through who went to war unless you were there with them. I by no means am comparing the gravity of these situations, but i'm trying to lend to the idea by using an analogy- unless you've spent years in card rooms, playing hundreds of thousands of hands, and living through the trials and burdens of a full time poker player- you just cannot relate. If you play online four hours a week and go to Vegas or LA once a month for a weekend of poker, you cannot relate to those who are there everyday. If you're 19 years old and reading this from your dorm room that your parents paid for and have a gas card, meal ticket, and no car payment- you cannot relate to the guy who has none of those neccesities handed to him, the guy who makes his living from the felt each and everyday with nothing coming to fruition unless he himself makes it happen.

There's a million varieties of card players. I'm one of them, you're one of them, Shannon is one of them. I've never met him and most of you have never met me, so I can't comment with any expertise on the specifics in this thread, but I do know that there's a million arm chair quarterbacks in this world and an equal number of people who need a big [censored] slice of humble pie- especially around here. If you're not on the grind supporting yourself as a professional card player, try and STFU and listen more often than you speak, and understand that there's truth in every story and a person behind it who knows only his reality, his perception.


You know what they say, misery loves company. And poker has succeeded in making many of the posters on this board miserable, broke, and insanely jealous of someones good fortune who of course, in their eyes, was just some lucky donk who caught the cards at the right time.



-Tex

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http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...an_worship.gif------>tex great post

As a live player, the hardest part is dropping down when your bankroll is dwindling. Its so hard to walk into that Bellagio room and sign up for the 15-30 and all the 30-60 and 40-80 mix players all wanna ask you if youre playin today, etc....I ran great for a couple of years, then started playing too high, buying into big events with little NLH experience, leaking moneyhttp://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c.../burnmoney.gif... Now Ive borrowed myself into such a big hole, that I have a normal job and play poker on the side. It happens.

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and stay away from sports betting if you dont follow the sport full-time. I cant even estimate how muh money I lost betting on baseball and NFL.

If I would stick to NBA and College football Id be close to even.