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EC10 10-29-2007 07:06 PM

a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
i had been giving nenad a pretty good amount of respect. checking behind 2nd/3rd pairish type hands i would normally value bet more often than not, folding to a lot of his donk leads into the PFR, checking behind rather than cbetting a lot more than i usually do, etc.

a few hands up to this point: with 60 bb effective stacks, i raise K3o, he calls. flop 332 with a FD, he checks i bet 80 he min c/r's i call. turn A putting 2 fd's up he bets 80 i raise to 300 he calls, river off suit 9 he check calls all in for his last $775 with pocket fives. another hand: RR'd pot 100bb's, he minraises my cbet on a Q-3-3 board, i call and check turn and he insta shoves QJ (i call w AA).

ok here are the two hands. the AK one is his first river cr/ai, i did the normal "15 secs left to act" before betting and he almost insta crai'd.

in the AT one he bet the turn pretty fast and shoved the river pretty fast.

Full Tilt Poker, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $2,129.50
Hero (SB): $10,685.75

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $60</font>, BB calls $40

Flop: ($120) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $80</font>, BB calls $80

Turn: ($280) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $200</font>, BB calls $200

River: ($680) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $525</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $1,789.50 and is All-In</font>



Full Tilt Poker, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $3,433
Hero (SB): $9,380.25

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $60</font>, BB calls $40

Flop: ($120) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $100</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $300</font>, BB calls $200

Turn: ($720) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $480</font>, Hero calls $480

River: ($1,680) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $2,593 and is All-In</font>

tcorbin16 10-29-2007 07:08 PM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
man, he is so spazzy.

hand 1 - i guess fold...? it wouldnt be the end of the world if you call though.
hand 2- id call that.

Lefort 10-29-2007 07:32 PM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
1-fold
2-call

EC10 10-29-2007 07:34 PM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
these replies are so useless

tell me why

cts 10-29-2007 07:42 PM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
from my experience with him he's too loose on all streets and a station but not really a bluffmonkey. hand 1 i'd fold really quick but would have bet bigger on flop/turn. hand 2 ugh i dunno kinda feels like he hit a gutshot. def closer.

this is lower than ive ever seen him play though so maybe he was playing a bit crazier. was he 3betting you much?

EC10 10-29-2007 08:19 PM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
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from my experience with him he's too loose on all streets and a station but not really a bluffmonkey. hand 1 i'd fold really quick but would have bet bigger on flop/turn. hand 2 ugh i dunno kinda feels like he hit a gutshot. def closer.

this is lower than ive ever seen him play though so maybe he was playing a bit crazier. was he 3betting you much?

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id say your description of him matches how i felt at the time. he was 3 betting more than i did and i caught him doing it with [censored] like 97s and such but nothing too out of line PF really.

riverboatking 10-29-2007 10:46 PM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
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these replies are so useless

tell me why

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1. cuz this line is almost never a bluff?

2. cuz this line looks really bluffy?

king_of_drafts 10-29-2007 10:59 PM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
Didn't nenad used to be an online superstar? he seems terrible

ActionJeff 10-29-2007 11:13 PM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
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Didn't nenad used to be an online superstar? he seems terrible

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I though he was notorious for giving too much action?

I agree with (1) fold (2) call

Lefort 10-30-2007 12:01 AM

Re: a couple river decisions vs nenad medic with TPTK
 
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these replies are so useless

tell me why

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1. cuz this line is almost never a bluff?

2. cuz this line looks really bluffy?

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