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RandomUser 02-07-2007 02:45 AM

Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
7 Card Stud High ($15/$30), Ante $3, Bring-In $5 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (2.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds

5th Street - (2.17 BB)

Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___?????
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

Raise 5th, fold to a reraise?
Call down while cursing poker gods?

Andy B 02-07-2007 02:47 AM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
Call down. Bet if checked to.

swillis717 02-07-2007 02:48 AM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
I think you Raise 5th and call down unless another Spade hits the board

Brad1970 02-07-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
Any reads?

If no, then I'd just grit my teeth & call down. Considering he bet into you on 5th when the third spade hit & 3 spades on third would make sense as a starting hand, don't be surprised when he tables a flush. If he checks, I check. No sense in getting crazy with this hand.

cgrohman 02-07-2007 11:27 AM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
I raise or fold on 3rd. Probably fold. I raise on 5th and fold to a 3 bet from a rational player.

*TT* 02-07-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
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Call down. Bet if checked to.

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Agree - unless a 4th spade appears. If he checks then give him a free card.

Note - I muck this hand on 3rd, with the A out there and your 9 redraws dead I don't think its strong enough to play on.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Poker CPA 02-07-2007 12:44 PM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
EZ fold on 3rd, call on 5th but raise on 6th if no spade

PoorLawyer 02-07-2007 12:56 PM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
Why did you play this hand on 3rd?

If you think you can steal, then a raise is ok i guess.

*TT* 02-07-2007 12:56 PM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
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EZ fold on 3rd, call on 5th but raise on 6th if no spade

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Raising on 6th is bad theory.

1) If he has got a flush you will get re-raised, costing you more. With a straight vs a 3-flush the hero should be showdown bound - keep it as cheep as possible.

2) In the event the villain only has a 3-flush your raise tells the villain his bluff has failed. You want him to go to showdown, a raise encourages a fold.

3) In the event of a 4 flush there is no way in hell he is going to fold - and he might suck out on the river.

In short the best strategy is to call down, its the most profitable in the long run and spews the least amount of chips.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

cgrohman 02-07-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Straight in 5 facing a monotone board
 
Are these the same reasons you would caution against a rise on 5th?


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