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Luckyspikes 09-29-2007 07:39 PM

NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

<u>SB: $1.35</u>
BB: $14.15
<u>Hero (UTG): $24.65</u>
UTG+1: $49.90
MP1: $16.80
<u>MP2: $25.10</u>
MP3: $14.90
CO: $14.40
BTN: $5.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ac.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/As.gif (9 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $1.25, MP2 calls $1.25, MP3 folds, CO calls $1.25, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $1.35</font>, BB calls $1.10, Hero calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($8.10) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6h.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ks.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Jh.gif (6 Players - 1 All-In)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.75</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $10.00</font>, 2 folds <font color="blue">Hero ?</font>
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I hate this type of situation, raise 5bb UTG and get called by 5 players...

No special read about the vilain (he is 50/6/1 other 20 hands).

Is a fold ok (or too weak) ?
Is a reraise all-in OK ?

pterodactyl_ 09-29-2007 08:04 PM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
Push this allllllll day. There are flush and straight draws out there that he can be betting and he is playing 50% of his hands. He probably reraises JJ and KK so 66 and KJ are the only worry hands and they make up a very small portion of his range.

ship_it_trebek 09-29-2007 08:41 PM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
His range is enormous being 50/6 and that juicy board. You are ahead here far too often to fold.

bottomset 09-29-2007 09:48 PM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
I'd bet more on the flop

looks like a very easy shove on the flop

umaine89 09-29-2007 10:50 PM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
If he's played 50% of 20 hands, I'd push all day.

jlp_2908 09-30-2007 01:09 AM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
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I hate this type of situation, raise 5bb UTG and get called by 5 players...

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So, you raise UTG, get 5 callers, one of them goes all in for an extra 10 cents, and you think to yourself "dam, I wish less people called someone is gonna hit the flop hard"... Why not avoid the WHOLE situation and re-raise instead of calling the 10 cents to narrow down the players your up against? Worse case, everyone folds and you get the sweet fat pre-flop pot....

Chargers In 07 09-30-2007 01:12 AM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
jlp, that's against the rules. The betting isn't reopened unless there's a full bet which in this case would be to $2.25.

CalledDownLight 09-30-2007 02:19 AM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
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I'd bet more on the flop

looks like a very easy shove on the flop

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Bluegrassplayer 09-30-2007 02:22 AM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I hate this type of situation, raise 5bb UTG and get called by 5 players...

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So, you raise UTG, get 5 callers, one of them goes all in for an extra 10 cents, and you think to yourself "dam, I wish less people called someone is gonna hit the flop hard"... Why not avoid the WHOLE situation and re-raise instead of calling the 10 cents to narrow down the players your up against? Worse case, everyone folds and you get the sweet fat pre-flop pot....

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The allin bet was less than half of the original bet so you aren't allowed to raise it.

I think you need to bet more on the flop with that many people in the hand, atleast a pot sized bet. Now that there's money in the side pot you have given the other person a reason to make a semi bluff. You know he has something since he has to show down his hand anyways, but my guess is that you are most likely ahead.

wikemang 09-30-2007 03:21 AM

Re: NL25$ : is a flop fold ok here ?
 
I'd pot the flop and look to get the money all-in [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. A flop fold is horrible as played; shove shove shove!


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