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latvaniemi 11-23-2007 07:21 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Chasing a Gutshot backdoorflush on a paired board is a worse way of spending money than buying a thailadyboy. And i'm not even into them :/

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its a backdoor straight flush draw so the paired board doesn't matter ldo

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I'm tired sorry, hero had 2 outs to hit his straightflush and villain probably an overpair so he had 2 outs to hit his fullhouse. So it's a 50/50 coinflip so hero should push on the flop to add some foldequity to make the villain an small underdog

DaycareInferno 11-23-2007 07:26 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
whyzze, i think that site you posted is actually going to be really neat as the samples get larger and larger. its already got about 9k hands on me, and even though that's a really incomplete sample, its still pretty fun. it makes me want to play more and play better, because i'm really competitive. i wasn't even on the list when you first posted it, but i'm coming on strong now.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...kmar/grooo.jpg

I WILL HUNT YOU ALL DOWN AND DESTROY YOU

well, maybe

Wilpro 11-23-2007 07:29 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
With this hand i am back to breakever for the month! In 10k hands on stars this month, i ran KK into AA twice and QQ into KK once and AA once, so pretty pleased this held up!!

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $8.60
SB: $33
BB: $4.95
UTG: $8.50
Hero (CO): $12.05

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $0.35, <font color="red">BB raises to $4.95 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.05 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $11.65

Flop: ($29.05) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($29.05) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($29.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $29.05 Pot ($1.45 Rake)
SB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$12.05 NET)
BB mucked J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$4.95 NET)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON $27.60 (+$15.55 NET)


Happy to be out of my downswing, and enjoying my new 12/9/3 playstyle [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

andy099 11-23-2007 07:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
life tilt

Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $87.65
Hero (BB): $117.75
UTG: $94.65
CO: $87.15
BTN: $64.95

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.05</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.45</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.40</font>, CO folds, SB calls $7.95

Flop: ($23.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $76.25 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $76.25

Turn: ($176.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($176.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $176.35 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Queen high) and WON $173.35 (+$85.70 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Jack high) and LOST (-$87.65 NET)

andy099 11-23-2007 07:39 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
villain was complete maniac open shoving loads. obv no club worries me but not folding. oh well

ICMoney 11-23-2007 07:41 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
What site is that?

I can't really hunt back through 30 pages of brewness.

Thanks.

DaycareInferno 11-23-2007 07:43 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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What site is that?

I can't really hunt back through 30 pages of brewness.

Thanks.

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http://www.pokerplayerwinnings.com/?...=sky&amp;qat=1

whyzze 11-23-2007 07:52 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Nice graph whyzze.

Do you play 2 HU matches at a time?
Which stakes?

later and gl

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Tyvm

its all 100nl. I usually play 4. I get in about the same amount of hands as 9 tabling 6 max.

whyzze 11-23-2007 07:54 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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whyzze, i think that site you posted is actually going to be really neat as the samples get larger and larger. its already got about 9k hands on me, and even though that's a really incomplete sample, its still pretty fun. it makes me want to play more and play better, because i'm really competitive. i wasn't even on the list when you first posted it, but i'm coming on strong now.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...kmar/grooo.jpg

I WILL HUNT YOU ALL DOWN AND DESTROY YOU

well, maybe

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lol. Ive seen you on the top left before fwiw. Sadly, there was a point when I saw you on the right as well lol.

I was very high on the list before it reset all the results. I was def #1 on the top one for a while, not sure about the bottom. Now it misses all of my hands because the HU coverage must be terrible.

ICMoney 11-23-2007 08:03 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Four-tabling HU is pretty sick man.

gl

DaycareInferno 11-23-2007 08:03 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i'm sure i'll make quite a few visits to the upper right. that's just the nature of the beast. if i ever show up on the lower right, i would probably be pretty embarrased.

ICMoney 11-23-2007 08:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I played &lt;4k hands this month and don't play 100nl.

Please hold your breath until you see me at at the top of that list.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/i...ing_Breath.jpg

whyzze 11-23-2007 08:13 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i'm sure i'll make quite a few visits to the upper right. that's just the nature of the beast. if i ever show up on the lower right, i would probably be pretty embarrased.

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ya. I figured you were just on a sick downswing.

derosnec 11-23-2007 08:14 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i told my girlfriend sitting next to me that there is no way i can call this river minraise against a nit. she insited i call it. i bet her $100 i'd lose.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($65.10)
SB ($68.65)
Hero ($72.40)
UTG ($31)
MP ($68.35)
CO ($36.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, UTG calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, UTG calls $2.50.

River: ($9.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6.

Final Pot: $33.25

Hero has 4h Th (three of a kind, fours).
UTG has Kc Kd (two pair, kings and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins $33.25.

losingdonkey 11-23-2007 08:17 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
your girlfriend is smarter than you

Wilpro 11-23-2007 08:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
if your girlfriend is UTG, that was a great angleshoot

losingdonkey 11-23-2007 08:22 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
2k hands of NL20 today - +1 buyin. Sick.

derosnec 11-23-2007 08:27 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
if one more tagtard calls a 3bet and flops a set against me i'm going to light my room on fire.

Waingro 11-23-2007 08:30 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i told my girlfriend sitting next to me that there is no way i can call this river minraise against a nit. she insited i call it. i bet her $100 i'd lose.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($65.10)
SB ($68.65)
Hero ($72.40)
UTG ($31)
MP ($68.35)
CO ($36.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, UTG calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, UTG calls $2.50.

River: ($9.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6.

Final Pot: $33.25

Hero has 4h Th (three of a kind, fours).
UTG has Kc Kd (two pair, kings and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins $33.25.

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So the lesson is (pick one or several):
[ ] Let her play instead of you
[ ] Quit poker
[ ] Ignore your gf
[ ] Donīt fold post flop

kolotoure 11-23-2007 08:31 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i thought I was the only one they do it to

monkover 11-23-2007 08:34 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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iīm up 550$ yeasterday and today but iīve been running pretty hot and my villainīs were really bad too...
but i guess thatīs the case for all 2/4 and 3/6 players. the rake is sick though and you obv canīt multitable

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level??

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that's what i thought
isnt minbet easy to multitable ?!

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i suck at multitableing while playign hu...
6 max i 8 table 100nl ans chat at the same time, canīt do that playing hu though

monkover 11-23-2007 08:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
ok i promised to post this today so here you go.
this is 100nl hu, some 2/4 sh, 2/4 hu, 3/6 sh and 3/6 hu
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3...daysjf7.th.jpg

kolotoure 11-23-2007 08:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
hu limit is hardly beatable below 5/10 because of the rake imo

monkover 11-23-2007 08:39 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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hu limit is hardly beatable below 5/10 because of the rake imo

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imo this is far from true...
the games are just so soft and i still got rb.
the rake is sick though thatīs right

ShipitFMA 11-23-2007 08:39 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
there is a pretty sick hourly to be made at like 2/4 and 3/6 limit i reckon

monkover 11-23-2007 08:40 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
how can i resize the pic i posted?

ShipitFMA 11-23-2007 08:40 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
its an option when you host on imageshack...

monkover 11-23-2007 08:42 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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its an option when you host on imageshack...

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[censored] i [censored] it up then
first time i think i posted a graph on 2p2 so donīt be too hard on me

ShipitFMA 11-23-2007 08:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] all good

now can anyone answer me this, a question in reference to the mentoring thread in BBV...

Why exactly were there players who already play high stakes applying for it? Its been bugging me

monkover 11-23-2007 08:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8...wnhuuh7.th.jpg

posted the wrong graph... this is the one mentioned above

whyzze 11-23-2007 08:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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:) all good

now can anyone answer me this, a question in reference to the mentoring thread in BBV...

Why exactly were there players who already play high stakes applying for it? Its been bugging me

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i would guess because they are only beating their level for 0-1bb/100 or something.


I think uNL would be shocked to see what the average 2p2 winrate is.

monkover 11-23-2007 08:49 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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:) all good

now can anyone answer me this, a question in reference to the mentoring thread in BBV...

Why exactly were there players who already play high stakes applying for it? Its been bugging me

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well i think that they thought they could get something out of it... but none of them was taken anyways i think...
ißm so jelous you made it! But even without the menotring by the time iīm leaving school thatīs in august iīm positive that iīll be playing &gt;600nl

ShipitFMA 11-23-2007 08:51 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I don't think i'd be shocked, but i do believe there are a lot of uNLer's with pretty skewed ideas of what a sustainable winrate can be.

Who was it who was saying that they saw a huuuuuge FTP db and only saw a small amount of decent winners (4-6ptbb)

ShipitFMA 11-23-2007 08:53 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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[ QUOTE ]
:) all good

now can anyone answer me this, a question in reference to the mentoring thread in BBV...

Why exactly were there players who already play high stakes applying for it? Its been bugging me

[/ QUOTE ]

well i think that they thought they could get something out of it... but none of them was taken anyways i think...
ißm so jelous you made it! But even without the menotring by the time iīm leaving school thatīs in august iīm positive that iīll be playing &gt;600nl

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At this point in time I'm not even sure I want to be playing as high as 600nl. Right now my ultimate goal is to be at 200nl by the end of February with a decent winrate / hourly.

I want to be able to not have to worry about money all throughout the time I'm at UNI.

corsakh 11-23-2007 08:57 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
AK &lt; QJ for 1.5BI preflop
Looks like it is going to be a long session on that table.

kolotoure 11-23-2007 09:02 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
monk i have never played hulhe but a lot of 2+2 seems to think it is unbeatable because of the rake

Bantam222 11-23-2007 09:07 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I won $40 playing some guy 2-4 HU horse yesterday. I had to stop when it got to the razz round because I wasn't sure if ace was low and was to lazy to check somewhere lol

ICMoney 11-23-2007 09:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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if one more tagtard calls a 3bet and flops a set against me i'm going to light my room on fire.

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With your gf still in the room?

ICMoney 11-23-2007 09:22 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I don't think i'd be shocked, but i do believe there are a lot of uNLer's with pretty skewed ideas of what a sustainable winrate can be.

Who was it who was saying that they saw a huuuuuge FTP db and only saw a small amount of decent winners (4-6ptbb)

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me

corsakh 11-23-2007 09:27 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I am pretty sure most people are in 2-3ptbb range. Some good ones are in 5-7.


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