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jay_shark 09-08-2007 11:07 AM

Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
Here is another interesting problem that shows why position matters .

There are two players who pick random numbers from the closed interval [0,1] . Each player posts an ante and has to make a decision whether or not to play for the pot or fold . The first player to act has three choices to make . He may either bet the pot, check-call , or check and fold . Player two can only call a bet , check or fold . There is no raising in this game .

a) What numbers should player one bet with ?
b) What numbers should player one check and call with ?
c) What numbers should player one check and fold with ?

*Bonus Question*

What is the EV of this game for both players ?

daveT 09-08-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
I love these posts. I wish I wasn't to stupid to solve them.

jay_shark 09-08-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
Thx Dave .

Feel free to give it a shot if you dare .

mykey1961 09-08-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
If player 1 can check-call, and player 2 can only call a bet, check, or fold, what is player 1 calling after his check?

SuperSnort 09-08-2007 03:47 PM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
i dont get it , do they choose decimals or something? if that is the case, as i am not clever, i would go for bet anythin higher than .5 check anything lower, and player 2 do the same

but i am so obviously wrong

jay_shark 09-08-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
Player one can check and call a bet .
Player one can make a bet in which case player two has the option of folding or calling .
Player one can check and fold if player two makes a bet .
Player one may also check and player two has the option of checking as well .

abcjnich 09-09-2007 02:44 AM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
as i said in the first thread, the answer is obv to read the mathematics of poker. or be really good at math.

Vinetou 09-09-2007 06:19 AM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
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as i said in the first thread, the answer is obv to read the mathematics of poker. or be really good at math.

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I hope when I read this book, I will know more about how to solve these problems. Reading it right now.

jay_shark 09-09-2007 10:08 AM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
abc , I already know how to solve this since I've proposed most of these problems .

I've read a similar problem to this one , but the last two set of problems were my own .

TNixon 09-09-2007 01:20 PM

Re: Why Position Matters Using Game Theory
 
Important missing detail:

The value of the antes in relation to the value of the bet.

It matters.


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