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tonysoldier 11-20-2007 01:19 PM

I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
Villain seems pretty reasonable pre and post flop. Very little history, basically unknown. He's got $230 and I cover.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Button folds, hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $20</font>, UTG folds, hero calls.

Should I just fold to his raise? That doesn't seem right, but reraising? Spewy?

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($46, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $166</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $206.25</font>, hero calls.

Great turn card. No idea at all what to do. I guess maybe I should have bet out.

I was also thinking that if he had a set it would prolly be 4s, which means he might fold, or I would at least have 6 outs.

sondring 11-20-2007 01:30 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
This might be weak, but when I'm playing well I fold to the flop raise, at least against a reasonable player.

Once we make it to the turn I think check/call is the best line. Bet 2/3pot and fold to a raise has it's merits as well.

MATT111 11-20-2007 01:33 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
I would fold preflop and to the flop raise.

Rob121 11-20-2007 01:37 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
i'm playing top two as passively as possible in a unraised pot here oop multiways on that board. i check call this flop. 3 betting the flop doesnt look good at all with the size of the pot. any turn card other than a 6 or j on the turn isnt going to look good and you'll still have more than half your stack behind.

Runner Runner 11-20-2007 01:39 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
I would fold to the flop raise due to reverse implied odds.

Nez477 11-20-2007 01:40 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
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I would fold preflop and to the flop raise.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fold preflop? Seriously?

OP, I play it the same way as you really, but I'm used to .25/.50 players who think a flush draw is good enough to get it all in. I suck at laying down 3 pair and 4 pair for whatever reason.

He couldn't POSSIBLY have the other two of any of those cards right? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Nez477 11-20-2007 01:41 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
The more I think about it, check-calling on both streets would maybe be ok, no?

tonysoldier 11-20-2007 01:41 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
Thanks everyone. I'm obviously way overvaluing hands cause of too much lhe.

jbird 11-20-2007 02:19 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
this should be an intsafold preflop

RoundTower 11-20-2007 02:21 PM

Re: I\'m stupid and screwed this up #2
 
I think it's OK if he is moderately aggro, don't see any reason why you would check call the flop. If he is tighter and unlikely to have a draw here I would be much more cautious.

You are overrepping your hand here a little, but that's OK: he might fold 44.


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