Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

you watching the right table?

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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swishfan88

just busted in 3rd 77<KQ preflop....gay

[/ QUOTE ]Ah, I saw it. GG tho.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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swishfan88

just busted in 3rd 77<KQ preflop....gay

[/ QUOTE ]Ah, I saw it. GG tho.

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tx

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

You'd be surprised how often you can get away with this at the mega micro level.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $11.85
UTG: $5.25
CO: $6.80
BTN: $4.80
SB: $8.35

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, CO calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($4.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.75 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $4.15 and is All-In, CO folds, SB calls $7.25 and is All-In

Results: $23.05 Pot ($1.10 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Tens) and WON $21.95 (+$13.60 NET)
UTG mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$5.25 NET)
SB mucked 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$8.35 NET)

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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You'd be surprised how often you can get away with this at the mega micro level.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $11.85
UTG: $5.25
CO: $6.80
BTN: $4.80
SB: $8.35

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, CO calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($4.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.75 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $4.15 and is All-In, CO folds, SB calls $7.25 and is All-In

Results: $23.05 Pot ($1.10 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Tens) and WON $21.95 (+$13.60 NET)
UTG mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$5.25 NET)
SB mucked 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$8.35 NET)

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Get away with Villains overcalling an overbet shove with 8 high?

I guess I'm a little surprised, but then again it is 10NL.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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You'd be surprised how often you can get away with this at the mega micro level.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $11.85
UTG: $5.25
CO: $6.80
BTN: $4.80
SB: $8.35

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, CO calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($4.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.75 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $4.15 and is All-In, CO folds, SB calls $7.25 and is All-In

Results: $23.05 Pot ($1.10 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Tens) and WON $21.95 (+$13.60 NET)
UTG mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$5.25 NET)
SB mucked 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$8.35 NET)


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wtf???

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

SB hit his straight vs. obv flush and still payed off huge.
And no, it's not entirely surprising but I think people tend to undervalue a shove in these situations.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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SB hit his straight vs. obv flush and still payed off huge.
And no, it's not entirely surprising but I think people tend to undervalue a shove in these situations.

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Ha ha ha I didn't even see he had a straight.

A donk is me!

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

[ QUOTE ]
You'd be surprised how often you can get away with this at the mega micro level.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $11.85
UTG: $5.25
CO: $6.80
BTN: $4.80
SB: $8.35

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, CO calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($4.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.75 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $4.15 and is All-In, CO folds, SB calls $7.25 and is All-In

Results: $23.05 Pot ($1.10 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Tens) and WON $21.95 (+$13.60 NET)
UTG mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$5.25 NET)
SB mucked 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$8.35 NET)


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lol I'm gonna miss .05/.1 so much....NOT

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

29 / 104 going into the break of the fifty - fifty

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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lol I'm gonna miss .05/.1 so much....NOT

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I love it down here. First time I've had a sustainable (close to) double digit BB/100 over a decent sample.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Full Tilt Poker Game #4180424862: The Fifty-Fifty (31127267), Table 31 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:54:15 ET - 2007/11/15
Seat 2: rama53 (4,586)
Seat 3: Flwless28 (7,190)
Seat 4: jags1818 (99,965)
Seat 5: scam8 (43,189)
Seat 6: Proud Plyr (22,353)
Seat 7: lucky105 (18,330)
Seat 8: ECrocodiles (23,781)
Seat 9: urCHEKRAISE (7,065)
rama53 antes 100
Flwless28 antes 100
jags1818 antes 100
scam8 antes 100
Proud Plyr antes 100
lucky105 antes 100
ECrocodiles antes 100
urCHEKRAISE antes 100
urCHEKRAISE posts the small blind of 400
rama53 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ECrocodiles [As Ah]
Flwless28 folds
jags1818 folds
scam8 folds
Proud Plyr raises to 22,253, and is all in
lucky105 folds
ECrocodiles raises to 23,681, and is all in
urCHEKRAISE folds
rama53 folds
ECrocodiles shows [As Ah]
Proud Plyr shows [Jh Qs]
Uncalled bet of 1,428 returned to ECrocodiles
*** FLOP *** [Jc Ts Qd]
*** TURN *** [Jc Ts Qd] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [Jc Ts Qd 4d] [7d]
ECrocodiles shows a pair of Aces
Proud Plyr shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Proud Plyr wins the pot (46,506) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 46,506 | Rake 0
Board: [Jc Ts Qd 4d 7d]
Seat 2: rama53 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Flwless28 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: jags1818 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: scam8 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Proud Plyr showed [Jh Qs] and won (46,506) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 7: lucky105 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: ECrocodiles (button) showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: urCHEKRAISE (small blind) folded before the Flop

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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SB hit his straight vs. obv flush and still payed off huge.
And no, it's not entirely surprising but I think people tend to undervalue a shove in these situations.

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Ha ha ha I didn't even see he had a straight.

A donk is me!

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Yeah me neither. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Full Tilt Poker Game #4180424862: The Fifty-Fifty (31127267), Table 31 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:54:15 ET - 2007/11/15
Seat 2: rama53 (4,586)
Seat 3: Flwless28 (7,190)
Seat 4: jags1818 (99,965)
Seat 5: scam8 (43,189)
Seat 6: Proud Plyr (22,353)
Seat 7: lucky105 (18,330)
Seat 8: ECrocodiles (23,781)
Seat 9: urCHEKRAISE (7,065)
rama53 antes 100
Flwless28 antes 100
jags1818 antes 100
scam8 antes 100
Proud Plyr antes 100
lucky105 antes 100
ECrocodiles antes 100
urCHEKRAISE antes 100
urCHEKRAISE posts the small blind of 400
rama53 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ECrocodiles [As Ah]
Flwless28 folds
jags1818 folds
scam8 folds
Proud Plyr raises to 22,253, and is all in
lucky105 folds
ECrocodiles raises to 23,681, and is all in
urCHEKRAISE folds
rama53 folds
ECrocodiles shows [As Ah]
Proud Plyr shows [Jh Qs]
Uncalled bet of 1,428 returned to ECrocodiles
*** FLOP *** [Jc Ts Qd]
*** TURN *** [Jc Ts Qd] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [Jc Ts Qd 4d] [7d]
ECrocodiles shows a pair of Aces
Proud Plyr shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Proud Plyr wins the pot (46,506) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 46,506 | Rake 0
Board: [Jc Ts Qd 4d 7d]
Seat 2: rama53 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Flwless28 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: jags1818 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: scam8 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Proud Plyr showed [Jh Qs] and won (46,506) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 7: lucky105 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: ECrocodiles (button) showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: urCHEKRAISE (small blind) folded before the Flop

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lol at donkpush.... least you have 1,400 chips to play with

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Jesus Shipit [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

How's the tourney trail going so far, besides that?

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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How's the tourney trail going so far, besides that?

[/ QUOTE ]That doesn't say it all? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I'm playing the 45 man 3.25's on stars now. lol, I think 90% of my opponents are drunk.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

My brother is now beating the piss out of 25nl and 50nl...and I just had a super ninja monkey tilt weekend good for -9 buyins. I gotta catch back up!

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Turbo donkaments for a fraction of my bankroll are a good way to cool down. Made like 5 out of 12 final tables, best finish was 4th. Good times though, lol donkaments.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

its going good, the few tournies i've gone deep in have just been ended due to coolers

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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My brother is now beating the piss out of 25nl and 50nl...and I just had a super ninja monkey tilt weekend good for -9 buyins. I gotta catch back up!

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Obv solution: Beat the piss out of him and take his money

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Does not make any sense. The only reason you might want to raise the flop is to charge the draw but then wth are you doing folding it. Not to mention turning TPTK into a bluff.

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raise flop is v bad. fold turn

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

If any1 sees me playing NL30(deep) or lower in the next 36 hours on FT, post a screen shot and I'll ship you $50

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

are you water boat? and why...?

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Many of you will have seen this already, but I came across it again last night and thought I'd repost.

Here's the original FTR thread, and a subsequent 2+2 thread:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-34864.htm
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=2&amp;fpart=1

Cliff Notes:
&gt; OP plays mainly 400NL, but with plenty of hands at higher stakes
&gt; OP plays: 20/10
&gt; Postflop aggro by street: 2.5/1.4/1.3
&gt; PTBB/100: 6.35
&gt; Sample: 400,000 hands

Mind-boggling, and very thought-provoking IMO.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Sigh, Q10&lt;A7 on 1072 board for top 5 stack in $5 rebuy. Guy was so bad and open shoved for 17k effective in a 5k pot and I snapcalled, river ace

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

New avatar holla.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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New avatar holla.

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that kid got rocked

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Many of you will have seen this already, but I came across it again last night and thought I'd repost.

Here's the original FTR thread, and a subsequent 2+2 thread:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-34864.htm
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=2&amp;fpart=1

Cliff Notes:
&gt; OP plays mainly 400NL, but with plenty of hands at higher stakes
&gt; OP plays: 20/10
&gt; Postflop aggro by street: 2.5/1.4/1.3
&gt; PTBB/100: 6.35
&gt; Sample: 400,000 hands

Mind-boggling, and very thought-provoking IMO.

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if thats the way you or OP feel more comfortable playing then play like that.

there's a balance between playing in a way that seems to make sense theoretically and the way that you are good at playing. ultimately the aim to work out where the sweet spot is so you make most $$$.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Boz, you are absolutely right, but some bizarre pride thing means I could never play a TAGfish 20/10/2.

But frankly that just goes to show the idiocy that this stupid game can drive you too. Too much ego and not enough smarts.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

It has probably has more to do with his emotional status than anything else. Its no secret to me I'd double my winrate if I stopped tilting.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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It has probably has more to do with his emotional status than anything else. Its no secret to me I'd double my winrate if I stopped tilting.

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I'd be happy to halve my loss rate [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

has any1 ever claimed that you couldn´t be sucessful playing 400nl as a 20/10?
I don´t think you got much of a chance playing 2knl shough and that´s my ultimate goal and not being able to beat 400nl.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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has any1 ever claimed that you couldn´t be sucessful playing 400nl as a 20/10?
I don´t think you got much of a chance playing 2knl shough and that´s my ultimate goal and not being able to beat 400nl.

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the dude in that thread actually says that as the games get more and more shorthanded (i.e. higher stakes) the optimal play is to get looser and looser, and he is working on getting looser himself. the only reason he can play the way he does is because his opponents suck. they dont suck like 50nl players suck, but they are nowhere near as good as 2knl players.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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has any1 ever claimed that you couldn´t be sucessful playing 400nl as a 20/10?
I don´t think you got much of a chance playing 2knl shough and that´s my ultimate goal and not being able to beat 400nl.

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the dude in that thread actually says that as the games get more and more shorthanded (i.e. higher stakes) the optimal play is to get looser and looser, and he is working on getting looser himself. the only reason he can play the way he does is because his opponents suck. they dont suck like 50nl players suck, but they are nowhere near as good as 2knl players.

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that is exactly what i meant ama
i didn´t read the thread though but i just meant that he won´t be able to exploit good players like that

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

dont get me wrong, theres nothing wrong with exploiting bad players. but if you can be playing a winning 2knl game at 400nl, youre gonna be doing a lot better than if you tried to play a winning 400nl game at 2knl.

ive been loosening myself up lately as well and its been hell, but im 100x the player i used to be before i started, no question.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

just one question guys: What am i supposed to do if have pt and i know i´m up about 1k$ the last week but my pt only shows like 300$ and is obv missing hands?

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

my pt misses hands sometimes when full tilt lags hard - as well as when i close a table before the next hand starts. Other than that, its usually just a filtering issue.

Do a quick import.
Doublcheck the filters.
If PT didn't give you an error message while importanting the hands it missed, its probably something similar to the errors i mentioned above.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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just one question guys: What am i supposed to do if have pt and i know i´m up about 1k$ the last week but my pt only shows like 300$ and is obv missing hands?

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make sure you have upgraded to the latest version man, FT changed something in their HH and PT couldnt import them. then re-import all your HH from FT and that should fix it. I was so tilted when i found out it was just a PT update issue, i hate being up and PT showing me breakeven hyahchcahcha

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

[censored] yeah, just qualified for FTOPS main event in a $5 rebuy 54 man sit n go [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] In for only $15 as well.
And I still have a ticket to one of the $109 qualifiers

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

i went out and got farrrrrrrrkin drunk. Hooeked up with this chick and went to take a leak and forgot what she looked like so i left :&lt;.

No root for me tonight.....gay