NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

I didn't want to give Villain a free card here, so I bet out on the flop; could I have bet differently after his raise to extract more value?

What range would a random Villain have here (5th hand at table, so I have no reads other than him only having $49 on the table)? Correct to discount possibility of set?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($100)
MP ($220.10)
Button ($49)
SB ($101.10)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button calls $3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($7.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, ???

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

Given stacksize you could prob just shove flop, if he has 55 you have to pay him of with your top two. And i dont see him folding for $36 here unless he's got air. He'll have J-A / J-K most of the time. If he had 55 he prob just wouldve called you and made his move on the turn with his stacksize.

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

Make it 25 or so and shove the turn

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

its pretty much never correct to discount a hand completely and i dont see why youd wanna do it here.
seems mor elike a beginner read in the same theme as i put him on AK because i have pocket sixes and cant beat AA.

a lot play 555 like this.

so put him on acomplete range and act occordingly.

if he has 555 u go broke though.

depending on image i might 3bet flop but calla nd lead turn might b better since 3betting flop might push him off a lot of Jx. a lot of straight draws out there though.

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

oh eyah see stacks now just push

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

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Make it 25 or so and shove the turn

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once i match his raise, the pot is $31.50 and he only has $34 behind ... against what range do i extract more value raising to $25 than shoving (effectively raising to $46)?

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

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Make it 25 or so and shove the turn

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once i match his raise, the pot is $31.50 and he only has $34 behind ... against what range do i extract more value raising to $25 than shoving (effectively raising to $46)?

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I just think donks are more likely to call a silly small 3bet with AT or any J than they are to call a shove

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

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Make it 25 or so and shove the turn

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once i match his raise, the pot is $31.50 and he only has $34 behind ... against what range do i extract more value raising to $25 than shoving (effectively raising to $46)?

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I just think donks are more likely to call a silly small 3bet with AT or any J than they are to call a shove

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I like.

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

very true

Re: NL100 - how to extract maximum value with JTos on JT5 rainbow flop
 

I would shove, but if you are calling, CR the turn.

Edit: Nevermind, I just saw stack sizes, I agree with a raise to something like 22-25 cause he will definetely pay with AJ if you shove the turn.