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blind squirrel 11-27-2007 03:33 PM

$1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
$1 - 45 players tourney down to last 3; villains both way too passive given the high blinds imo.

villain (in this hand) playing a like a complete (bad) rock, never raising pf, folding to much shorthanded, and then mostly betting for "value" however a flop comes down with ace-, king-high or a middle pocket pair, eg. so in this hand his range has to be pretty much 22+, Q10+, K9+, Ax iŽd say. given this information i puzzled about responding to his flopbet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t4770)
SB (t6610)
Hero (t15620)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t1350) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1800</font>,

Hero ?

J-P 11-27-2007 03:40 PM

Re: $1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
fold especially with your read that he has been really tight.

sence25 11-27-2007 03:46 PM

Re: $1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
Note his read is that this guy is vbetting a-, k-high type of hands.
Tough spot.. I'd fold to an overbet I think.
Pot is becoming pretty large and I hate this with bottom pair.
Did he "valuebet" his highcards on several streets or only on the flop?

blind squirrel 11-27-2007 03:56 PM

Re: $1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
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Did he "valuebet" his highcards on several streets or only on the flop?

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only on the flop, thereafter he never tried to bluff or semi-bluff a hand. he would often not even bet any kind of hand on 4th and 5th street, so the good ones as well. prolly much more of a calling station than a rock, as i think about it right now.

djcarter66 11-27-2007 04:03 PM

Re: $1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
Given the stacks you gotta have a better spot coming down the road, Fold

If you call what have you really gained what card are you looking for a heart (that you would probably have to fold if he leads) or another 2 maybe the 4??

If you shove and he calls you are could be crushed already and if not you know he has gotta have outs.

sippin_criss 11-27-2007 04:07 PM

Re: $1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
I break my mouse clicking the fold button. I don't think I'd get this in vs anyone.

TheActionKid 11-27-2007 04:39 PM

Re: $1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
fold!

-TAK

Rick Diesel 11-27-2007 04:42 PM

Re: $1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
[ QUOTE ]
$1 - 45 players tourney down to last 3; villains both way too passive given the high blinds imo.

villain (in this hand) playing a like a complete (bad) rock, never raising pf, folding to much shorthanded, and then mostly betting for "value" however a flop comes down with ace-, king-high or a middle pocket pair, eg. so in this hand his range has to be pretty much 22+, Q10+, K9+, Ax iŽd say. given this information i puzzled about responding to his flopbet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t4770)
SB (t6610)
Hero (t15620)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t1350) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1800</font>,

Hero ?

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If this is a 45 player tourney, where are the rest of the chips at? Looks like an 18 to me.

That being said, i am definitely folding here without much thought.

blind squirrel 11-27-2007 06:50 PM

Re: $1 - 300/600 BvB - 45er endgame - 24o - How To Evaluate This Flop?
 
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If this is a 45 player tourney, where are the rest of the chips at? Looks like an 18 to me.

That being said, i am definitely folding here without much thought.

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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] yeah 18 obviously. stupid me


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